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re: Baptist Pastor removes Muslim from praying on church property.

Posted on 5/28/26 at 9:09 am to
Posted by TulsaSooner78
Member since Aug 2025
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 9:09 am to
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Do you personally know any muzzies? I work with a lot of muzzies working in oil and gas, really good friends with a couple, one married to another muzzie doctor, didn’t even kiss before their marriage, incredibly nice and peaceful people, not sure why you think every muzzie wants to kill everyone that’s not a muzzie, sure there are some bad ones, as there are in every single sect and religion, but if you actually knew any you’d be surprised how closely their values align to conservative values


In Oklahoma City, Baptist Hospital named one of their wings after a Muslim doctor.

He was a renowned heart transplant surgeon who extended the lives of many Christians.

Even so, when he tried to open a mosque in one of the lilly white suburbs of OKC, Christians threw a fit.
Posted by CrystalPreserves
Member since May 2019
4963 posts
Posted on 5/28/26 at 9:10 am to
That’s a pretty big assumption.

You’re going from “some Muslims are aggressive about their beliefs” to “this specific guy praying near a church must’ve had bad motives.”

Why?

Maybe he needed to pray and happened to be there. Maybe it was a quiet spot. Maybe he was just… praying.

Here’s a simple question: if a Christian quietly prayed outside a mosque, would you automatically assume hostile intent? Or would you say, “he’s just practicing his faith”?

If your answer changes depending on which religion is involved, then this isn’t really about behavior. It’s about bias.
Posted by TulsaSooner78
Member since Aug 2025
3365 posts
Posted on 5/28/26 at 9:12 am to
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His faith led him to pray in front of a Christian church??


Muslims actually revere Jesus. Much more so than Jews do.
Posted by TulsaSooner78
Member since Aug 2025
3365 posts
Posted on 5/28/26 at 9:13 am to
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My "buddy" at the C-store is all happy and joyful to see me.


Are you sure he is Muslim? C-Store employee is more likely to be Hindu.
Posted by wareaglepete
Union of Soviet Auburn Republics
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 9:14 am to
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Are you sure he is Muslim? C-Store employee is more likely to be Hindu.


No, that’s my liquor store guy. He’s always watching Bollywood shows when I go in.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 9:22 am to
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I work with a lot of muzzies working in oil and gas, really good friends with a couple, one married to another muzzie doctor, didn’t even kiss before their marriage, incredibly nice and peaceful people,


Posted by TulsaSooner78
Member since Aug 2025
3365 posts
Posted on 5/28/26 at 9:25 am to
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No, that’s my liquor store guy. He’s always watching Bollywood shows when I go in.


Which makes me wonder, are there any Muslims who own or work in liquor stores in America?

Dearborn, maybe?
Posted by wareaglepete
Union of Soviet Auburn Republics
Member since Dec 2012
19165 posts
Posted on 5/28/26 at 9:30 am to
I know in bama, the ones that are independently owned, apart from ABC, are all Indian type folk. The C-stores near me that aren't corporate, like Circle K, are a mix of Indian type folk and persians/muzzies.
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 10:20 am to
"Must have had bad motives"? I said "in today's world". Sorry, too big of a simple coincidence to be realistic. Giving you every possible explanation, he still just happens to stop in front of a Christian church? In today's world, a coincidence?
Posted by theballguy
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 10:48 am to
I think you're just splitting hairs. There's a time and place to make this point you're making but this thread ain't it, brother.
Posted by VOR
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 12:49 pm to
A form of imitation? Imitating what?

Posting can sometimes be intimidating.
Posted by Rex Feral
Somewhere near Athens
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 12:52 pm to
This is the way.
Posted by CrystalPreserves
Member since May 2019
4963 posts
Posted on 5/28/26 at 1:14 pm to
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I think you're just splitting hairs. There's a time and place to make this point you're making but this thread ain't it, brother.


Bubba, the thread is about a pastor telling a Muslim to go pray by a dumpster.

Discussing whether that reaction was reasonable isn’t “splitting hairs.” It’s the whole haircut.
Posted by CrystalPreserves
Member since May 2019
4963 posts
Posted on 5/28/26 at 1:19 pm to
“In today’s world” isn’t evidence. It’s suspicion. You’re basically saying, “I don’t believe it was innocent, so it probably wasn’t.” People pray in random places all the time.

If a Christian quietly prayed near a mosque, would you automatically assume some hostile agenda? Or would you allow that he might just be practicing his faith? Because “too much of a coincidence” isn’t really proof. It’s just your assumption.
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
12939 posts
Posted on 5/28/26 at 1:24 pm to
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Ten years + ago, this would be a nothing burger. However, in today's world, with Muslims being super aggressive in pushing their faith / beliefs across the country, it's hard to give this Muslim a pass on his intentions. What possible reasonable reason could he give for what he tried to do where he did??? His faith led him to pray in front of a Christian church??


Yep I agree. This is a no-brainer. He can go pray somewhere else.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
In the woods and by the waters.
Member since Dec 2016
38806 posts
Posted on 5/28/26 at 2:02 pm to
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Do you personally know any muzzies? I work with a lot of muzzies working in oil and gas, really good friends with a couple, one married to another muzzie doctor, didn’t even kiss before their marriage, incredibly nice and peaceful people, not sure why you think every muzzie wants to kill everyone that’s not a muzzie, sure there are some bad ones, as there are in every single sect and religion, but if you actually knew any you’d be surprised how closely their values align to conservative values

I do. I actually went to trade school with a practicing muzzy who we call "Solly", and we became good friends and he's good people.

We touched some on the subject of Islam because he claims to not be all about the killing, but he got pretty visibly tense when I told him that if that was the case, he wasn't following the teachings of Mohammed. He had no viable response so we changed the subject.

Also, study what "taqiyya" is, and how it is authorized in the qaran to be deployed, and the purpose of it. I like Solly, but i do it with the understanding that if an imam told him it was time to start shooting rednecks like me, he'd obey.
Posted by PastorJ
Member since Sep 2024
995 posts
Posted on 5/28/26 at 4:20 pm to
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When Jesus encountered religious outsiders, pagans, Samaritans, tax collectors, sinners, and Romans, did He generally lead with ridicule and humiliation, or with challenge, conversation, invitation, and moral confrontation?


There was a variety of responses. But, how did Jesus act when people disrespected the house of the Lord? Hmmmmm? You'd have Him bend the knee and be winsome, which is junk.

quote:

The debate is whether your application of those verses actually matches the behavior of the person you claim to follow.


The pastor acted like Jesus when he removed someone who disrespected the House of God. You would have the pastor pretty much groveling for approval from the person. You would allow the Muslim to come to a Christian place to spread Islam and expect the Christian to take it. That's rubbish.

Question, are you this "in your feelings" when you see Muslims slaughter Christians? Or does your simping only serve to make you feel inclusive with an ideology that hates you?

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The actual question was much simpler: does mocking a peaceful Muslim praying in a parking lot accurately reflect the example of Jesus?


How did Elijah respond to the prophets of Baal? He mocked them. You are presenting a weak position that would do nothing but make yourself feel virtuous. You're position seems to be "Preach Christ unless it offends someone and it is does do not stand for Truth but make sure you don't hurt anyone's feelings." Honestly, you seem more like your trolling and really do not have a point. I usually do not get into forum debates because they are pointless. Unless you can give a clear cut thesis statement of what it is you're trying to say I do not see the need to continue this. God bless you.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
47317 posts
Posted on 5/28/26 at 5:18 pm to
I think his response was appropriate except for the dumpster comment (the focal point of the video, it seems).

Christians should speak the truth firmly and with conviction without being disrespectful.

It would have been better to just say that Islam is a false religion and that that man needs to put his trust in Jesus Christ, the Son of God, who died for the sins of people like him, than to say he should pray at a dumpster.

It's hard to be too critical, since the pastor was caught off-guard, and I appreciate his zeal, but it's something that should be considered, that we should speak the truth in love.
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
22259 posts
Posted on 5/28/26 at 5:40 pm to
"If a Christian...."? No, because, factually, Christians are not out in the country building Muslim "cities" & pushing their own laws in these communities. " People pray in random places all the time"?? Yea, ok, give an example of a Christian praying in front of a mosque or another example of a Muslim praying in front of a Christian church. Agree, plenty do pray in a wide variety of places. But how many pray as described in my previous sentence? ZERO?
Posted by The Eric
Member since Sep 2008
24601 posts
Posted on 5/28/26 at 6:05 pm to
Remember. When the temple was unclean, Jesus flipped tables.
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