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re: Baptist Pastor removes Muslim from praying on church property.

Posted on 5/27/26 at 5:10 pm to
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 5/27/26 at 5:10 pm to
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They are always pushing, trying to exploit weakness, they have been commanded to, and people like you endeavor to assist them. Your condemnation will read like a badge of honor at the Pearly Gates.


To pull up to a Baptist church, as a Muslim, with the intent to pray is nothing but an attempt to provoke. Just tells you more about them as a group.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 5/27/26 at 5:14 pm to
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Now this is where the deceitful, lying muslim will tell you that they're no enemies of the Lord but view his as a Prophet.

Important to know our beliefs and understand the lies of the muzzies.


True.

A lot of Islamists hope you and I do not know that Muhammad cursed Christians for some of their religious practices. Muhammad may have had some firm ground to stand on in some instances.....idolatrous behavior by some Christians.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 5/27/26 at 5:31 pm to
This is how you handle a satanic religion.
Posted by PastorJ
Member since Sep 2024
937 posts
Posted on 5/27/26 at 5:32 pm to
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Now this is where the deceitful, lying muslim will tell you that they're no enemies of the Lord but view his as a Prophet.

Important to know our beliefs and understand the lies of the muzzies.


Yep. They will say He is a prophet, even the Messiah. But when you question them on it you see their Isa IS NOT the Biblical Jesus. Jesus called God His Father, talked about giving the Holy Spirit, equated Himself to God, allowed others to call Him God, stated salvation is only through Him. Muslims, of course reject this and have a "build your own" type of Jesus.

They claim the Bible has been corrupted, yet their vile Koran calls the Bible authoritative (the Islamic Dilemma), they try to explain away the Satanic verses (where Muhammed was lead by Satan) and try to hope you do not read about the Muhammed getting ganged raped at Al Zutt. It's a stupid nonsensical religion that does not survive the slightest scrutiny.

Also, Muhammed said if he was a false prophet then his aorta should be severed. When he died he said it feels like his aorta is being...severed.

Not to mention had had relations with a 9 year old. Muhammed was a demon possessed idiot.
This post was edited on 5/27/26 at 5:35 pm
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 5/27/26 at 5:32 pm to
I have no problem with that!
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
10363 posts
Posted on 5/27/26 at 5:34 pm to
Islam is an evil religion. One of the preachers I listen to is very weary of them and everything they stand for.
Posted by PastorJ
Member since Sep 2024
937 posts
Posted on 5/27/26 at 5:43 pm to
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Islam is an evil religion. One of the preachers I listen to is very weary of them and everything they stand for.


Evil is exactly what it is. It was founded by a suicidal, demonically possessed, murderous, sex fiend. That religion certainly bears those traits. It is a religion for other violent, insane men who are sex fiends. Islam is right out of the pits of hell.

It preys on the moral and emotional weakness of the West. Once they are in a position of power they will absolutely kill the very ones who simped for them.
This post was edited on 5/27/26 at 5:45 pm
Posted by navy
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Posted on 5/27/26 at 5:50 pm to
Posted by PastorJ
Member since Sep 2024
937 posts
Posted on 5/27/26 at 5:54 pm to
I am a fan of Raymond Ibrahim. He has a lot of good writings. There are several books I can recommend. The best ones are from former Muslims who embraced Jesus Christ. I recommend Seeking Allah, Finding Jesus by the late Nabeel Qureshi. If interested I can post more books that are good.

Christians need to fully understand Islam in order to counter it and be effective in spreading the Gospel to Muslims.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 5/27/26 at 6:35 pm to
I would make an exception for this Muslim if he was coming to the church to ask the pastor to pray for his redemption/salvation.....seeking the Truth.
Posted by GeauxtigersMs36
The coast
Member since Jan 2018
13280 posts
Posted on 5/27/26 at 6:48 pm to
Why would a Muslim go to a Baptist church? Can he not Google “nearest mosque”? Also, with the prayer rug they can pray anywhere so why even go?
Posted by uggabugga
Maryland
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Posted on 5/27/26 at 6:51 pm to
The hero we didn't know we needed.
Posted by CrystalPreserves
Member since May 2019
4314 posts
Posted on 5/27/26 at 7:08 pm to
For someone desperate to claim the moral high ground, you’ve managed to dig a pretty deep hole. It’s almost impressive how you’ve twisted a faith of love into a soapbox for your insecurity. Christ didn’t die to give you a license to sneer. He died to teach you the humility you clearly skipped. If you’re going to cherry-pick your Bible, at least pick up the part about not casting the first stone. Your fear doesn’t make you bold, it just makes you loud. Maybe step down from that pedestal and try acting like the Christ you claim to follow.
Posted by PastorJ
Member since Sep 2024
937 posts
Posted on 5/27/26 at 7:56 pm to
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He died to teach you the humility


No, He didn't. He died for atonement to provide a way for salvation for us fallen humans. Humility was not the main thing at all concerning His death on the cross.

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at least pick up the part about not casting the first stone.


And you talk about others cherry picking? This verse is not a license to affirm or let sin slide. That is the exact opposite of what The Lord taught in both Testaments. You clearly missed Jesus boldly confronting false and misleading teaching. He was not a timid and weak individual at all. We are indeed called to stand for His truth and point people to Him regardless of how society feels about it.

This post was edited on 5/27/26 at 7:58 pm
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
38141 posts
Posted on 5/27/26 at 9:02 pm to
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For someone desperate to claim the moral high ground, you’ve managed to dig a pretty deep hole. It’s almost impressive how you’ve twisted a faith of love into a soapbox for your insecurity. Christ didn’t die to give you a license to sneer. He died to teach you the humility you clearly skipped. If you’re going to cherry-pick your Bible, at least pick up the part about not casting the first stone. Your fear doesn’t make you bold, it just makes you loud. Maybe step down from that pedestal and try acting like the Christ you claim to follow.

It seems as if you're the one casting stones here. I merely pointed out facts.

I have no idea how you came to the conclusion that I'm insecure or fearful. The qaran very clearly gives instructions to the followers of Islam, instructions on how to treat ALL those who reject the Civilization of Islam and even how to specifically KILL them.

Perhaps you should do a bit of research on the real opposition and enlighten yourself a bit.
Posted by CrystalPreserves
Member since May 2019
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Posted on 5/27/26 at 9:19 pm to
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No, He didn't. He died for atonement to provide a way for salvation for us fallen humans. Humility was not the main thing at all concerning His death on the cross.


Nobody said humility was the only purpose of the crucifixion. Atonement and humility are not mutually exclusive concepts unless your theology is unusually flimsy.

Christ’s death is absolutely central to salvation in Christian doctrine. But Christianity also explicitly presents the cross as the ultimate model of humility, self-sacrifice, mercy, and love. Philippians 2 literally describes Christ humbling Himself unto death, even death on a cross.

So yes, congratulations on remembering basic substitutionary atonement. Gold star. But if your version of Christianity extracts salvation from the cross while somehow missing the humility, compassion, and radical love demonstrated through the cross, you’re not defending Christ’s message. You’re amputating half of it.

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And you talk about others cherry picking? This verse is not a license to affirm or let sin slide. That is the exact opposite of what The Lord taught in both Testaments. You clearly missed Jesus boldly confronting false and misleading teaching. He was not a timid and weak individual at all. We are indeed called to stand for His truth and point people to Him regardless of how society feels about it.


You’re arguing against a point nobody made. “Don’t cast the first stone” was never a command to affirm sin or abandon discernment. It was a rebuke against self-righteous hypocrisy.

And yes, Jesus confronted false teaching. But notice who received the harshest rebukes: not outsiders praying differently, not ordinary sinners, but religious people weaponizing righteousness, puffed up with certainty, contempt, and public humiliation.

You’re right that Jesus wasn’t timid. He also wasn’t a man who told outsiders to go pray by a dumpster.

Standing for “truth” is not the same thing as behaving with hostility and then baptizing it with Bible verses afterward. Christ preached truth and mercy, conviction and humility. If your defense of Christianity consistently looks more like contempt for outsiders than Christ’s treatment of them, that’s probably worth examining.

Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
21076 posts
Posted on 5/27/26 at 9:23 pm to
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he should have shared the good news of salvation through Christ with that lost soul.


Looks like he may have already been ministering to the guy that opened the door for him? Nonetheless, it's easy to play the critic of the pastor. He likely got blindsided. I've never heard of a Muslim trying to setup shop at a Baptist church site. I applaud him for being as forthright as he was.

Some of you may recall the 'invasion' of the church in MN where Don Lemon piggy-backed onto. This is different only in magnitude, not kind.

Islam is a violent, perverted, dark, and false religion. The pastor (shepherd) is right to protect his flock from it.

Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
21351 posts
Posted on 5/27/26 at 9:24 pm to
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he should have shared the good news of salvation through Christ with that lost soul.

He did, but people forget God is a just God. Lying to people does them more harm than good.
Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
7978 posts
Posted on 5/27/26 at 9:30 pm to
Why wouldn't it be considered a cult, instead of a religion?

On a side note, anyone able to confirm the church name, location, Pastors name?
This post was edited on 5/27/26 at 9:32 pm
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
21076 posts
Posted on 5/27/26 at 9:32 pm to
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Standing for “truth” is not the same thing as behaving with hostility and then baptizing it with Bible verses afterward.


Isn't this just what Jesus did?

"And Jesus entered the temple and drove out all who sold and bought in the temple, and he overturned the tables of the money-changers and the seats of those who sold pigeons. He said to them, “It is written, ‘My house shall be called a house of prayer,’ but you make it a den of robbers.” Mt. 21:12-13

And Paul similarly to Elymas:

". . . and said, “You son of the devil, you enemy of all righteousness, full of all deceit and villainy, will you not stop making crooked the straight paths of the Lord?" Acts 13:10.

The pastor would've been on solid Biblical ground had he echoed the same words to the Muslim.

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