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Atlantic article: Better schools won't fix America

Posted on 7/3/19 at 2:31 pm
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14479 posts
Posted on 7/3/19 at 2:31 pm
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Read this and thought the PT would find it interesting. I am eager to hear the board's thought's on this provocative piece. Here are a few snippets:
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Like many rich Americans, I used to think educational investment could heal the country’s ills—but I was wrong. Fighting inequality must come first.


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Educationism appeals to the wealthy and powerful because it tells us what we want to hear: that we can help restore shared prosperity without sharing our wealth or power. As Anand Giridharadas explains in his book Winners Take All: The Elite Charade of Changing the World, narratives like this one let the wealthy feel good about ourselves. By distracting from the true causes of economic inequality, they also defend America’s grossly unequal status quo. We have confused a symptom—educational inequality—with the underlying disease: economic inequality. Schooling may boost the prospects of individual workers, but it doesn’t change the core problem, which is that the bottom 90 percent is divvying up a shrinking share of the national wealth. Fixing that problem will require wealthy people to not merely give more, but take less.
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
20603 posts
Posted on 7/3/19 at 2:32 pm to
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Fighting inequality must come first.


And.... The best way to do that.
...... Is....... Through.... Improving....
Posted by mule74
Watersound Beach
Member since Nov 2004
11286 posts
Posted on 7/3/19 at 2:33 pm to
Handing money to poor people won't fix schools either.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134845 posts
Posted on 7/3/19 at 2:33 pm to
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Educationism

We've jumped the shark on the isms
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19105 posts
Posted on 7/3/19 at 2:34 pm to
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Fighting inequality


The politics of envy.

That will be a disaster.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63867 posts
Posted on 7/3/19 at 2:34 pm to
A rising tide lifts all boats, except those not tied off properly. Those boats are fricked.
Posted by Douglas Quaid
Mars
Member since Mar 2010
4097 posts
Posted on 7/3/19 at 2:35 pm to
quote:

And.... The best way to do that.
...... Is....... Through.... Improving....


education. bingo.
Posted by ClientNumber9
Member since Feb 2009
9313 posts
Posted on 7/3/19 at 2:35 pm to
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Handing money to poor people won't fix schools either.


This. Poor people are poor because they make horrendous life choices. If you can't make it to middle class in America, you can't make it anywhere.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78357 posts
Posted on 7/3/19 at 2:35 pm to
I taught in a school in Japan that looked like a two story motel six of crumbling concrete. 40 students to a class . No air conditioning. Holes in the floor to shite in.

The students arrived on time, respectful, ready and eager to learn . EVERY DAY. Including a half day Saturday . Pimpu Sensei was humbled.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
29919 posts
Posted on 7/3/19 at 2:37 pm to
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We've jumped the shark on the isms

It's ismism.
Posted by Sweet Pickles
Member since Mar 2017
367 posts
Posted on 7/3/19 at 2:37 pm to
It is hard to believe some people actually believe this. I’m guessing that journalism degree did not payoff like they thought it should, so it’s the fault of people who got a job getting degree. SMH.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 7/3/19 at 2:40 pm to
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American workers are struggling in large part because they are underpaid
\
False premise

America's poor are in the top 5% in the world. More than 4B people on the planet would consider moving into our public housing projects a dream not even worth dreaming it's so out of their reach.

And this shite ain't no accident.

This is the problem. The left has NO frickING PERSPECTIVE

Oh. And Equality and Freedom are competing ideals. Freedom is better.
Posted by thetempleowl
dallas, tx
Member since Jul 2008
14811 posts
Posted on 7/3/19 at 2:40 pm to
Strange. Education raised me from poor to a 1 percenter. I wonder why it doesn't work for everyone.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111498 posts
Posted on 7/3/19 at 2:41 pm to
The United States has been the most upwardly mobile society in maybe the course of human history. That has been accomplished in large part because of our free education system. But it also will deteriorate as our education system continues to deteriorate.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112410 posts
Posted on 7/3/19 at 2:42 pm to
Thanks. I read the whole piece and cannot respond without getting into 1,000 words of text because every other sentence is incorrect.
Just an example from the top:

quote:

Once upon a time, America created a public-education system that was the envy of the modern world.


No. Public education in America started in Boston in 1635. For the next 200 years the education system in America was considered highly inferior to education in Europe.

The writer knows nothing about anything.



This post was edited on 7/3/19 at 3:19 pm
Posted by olemissfan26
MS
Member since Apr 2012
6235 posts
Posted on 7/3/19 at 2:42 pm to
As long as democrats keep selling to poor people that everyone else is to blame for their poverty, they will keep expecting everyone else to bail them out.

No matter who’s “fault” poverty is, only one person can really step up and get you out. YOURSELF. Charity can supplement, government aid can supplement, education systems supplement, but each individual has to make the daily choice to get out and stay out of that reality and mindset.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55438 posts
Posted on 7/3/19 at 2:43 pm to
No one who talks about inequality of any sort precisely defines just what level of equality is desired, unless they are communist. So I assume anyone who makes it a plank is a closet communist.
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 7/3/19 at 2:43 pm to
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Better schools


quote:

Fighting inequality


Pick one
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
29886 posts
Posted on 7/3/19 at 2:43 pm to
quote:

I taught in a school in Japan that looked like a two story motel six of crumbling concrete. 40 students to a class . No air conditioning. Holes in the floor to shite in.

The students arrived on time, respectful, ready and eager to learn . EVERY DAY. Including a half day Saturday . Pimpu Sensei was humbled.


and i think its safe to assume it was 100% about learning math science and history and nothing about indoctrination and brainwashing
Posted by Geauxboy
NW Arkansas
Member since Oct 2006
4856 posts
Posted on 7/3/19 at 2:44 pm to
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This is the problem. The left has NO frickING PERSPECTIVE


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