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re: Atlantic article: Better schools won't fix America
Posted on 7/3/19 at 2:45 pm to Nguyener
Posted on 7/3/19 at 2:45 pm to Nguyener
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And.... The best way to do that.
...... Is....... Through.... Improving....
And that has to be done at an individual level. I can't make you better - only you can.
Laziness is causing inequalty, and there are many reasons for that. Chief among them is horrible parenting by people who should not be parents.
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Posted on 7/3/19 at 2:45 pm to Nguyener
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Fighting inequality must come first.
And.... The best way to do that.
...... Is....... Through.... Improving....
Demographics
Posted on 7/3/19 at 2:46 pm to MrCarton
We could have better schools tomorrow. We don’t really want them at the level required to make the changes.
Posted on 7/3/19 at 2:46 pm to ShortyRob
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America's poor are in the top 5% in the world. More than 4B people on the planet would consider moving into our public housing projects a dream not even worth dreaming it's so out of their reach.
And this shite ain't no accident.
This is the problem. The left has NO frickING PERSPECTIVE
Oh. And Equality and Freedom are competing ideals. Freedom is better.
Amen.
/thread
Posted on 7/3/19 at 2:47 pm to BigJim
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Fighting inequality must come first.
There are reasons that inequality exists. It exists largely because there is inequality of effort and inequality of decision making. With 80% of black children now being born out of wedlock, can anyone be surprised that there is inequality? With large segments of our society not giving a shite about education or doing well in school, is inequality a surprise? This is what happens in a free country. People live with the consequences of the choices they make.
Posted on 7/3/19 at 2:47 pm to the808bass
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We could have better schools tomorrow. We don’t really want them at the level required to make the changes
Agreed. We can't have better schools because we can't actually admit the truth about the people who attend school.
This post was edited on 7/3/19 at 3:45 pm
Posted on 7/3/19 at 2:47 pm to BigJim
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Fighting inequality must come first.
This a-hole is assuredly talking about "equality of outcome"(BAD) and not "equality of opportunity"(VERY GOOD).
I suspect there is a lot of gnashing of teeth in that book and by this clown about "the white male patriarchy" and how hierarchies in general are "evil".
Jordan Peterson would wipe his arse with these idiots in a debate about this topic.
Posted on 7/3/19 at 2:47 pm to BigJim
He’s right.
But the Inequality isn’t racial, privilege or income related.
We have to fix the inequality of values, work ethic, morality and character. That’s the inequality that needs to be repaired.
But the Inequality isn’t racial, privilege or income related.
We have to fix the inequality of values, work ethic, morality and character. That’s the inequality that needs to be repaired.
Posted on 7/3/19 at 2:48 pm to SloaneRanger
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There are reasons that inequality exists. It exists largely because there is inequality of effort and inequality of decision making. With 80% of black children now being born out of wedlock, can anyone be surprised that there is inequality? With large segments of our society not giving a shite about education or doing well in school, is inequality a surprise? This is what happens in a free country. People live with the consequences of the choices they make.
Would be nice. Instead, we get to live with the consequences of these people:
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With 80% of black children now being born out of wedlock, can anyone be surprised that there is inequality? With large segments of our society not giving a shite about education or doing well in school, is inequality a surprise?
Posted on 7/3/19 at 2:49 pm to BigJim
The thing is no matter what you do there will always be a top 10%.
The thing that these types don’t tell you is that while there is always s top 10%, the top 10% aren’t all the same people.
A good education system is a good way to get folks prepared for life after school. But it can’t guarantee you will win life’s race to the top. Nothing government can do can guarantee that unless of course it’s a communist govt.
The thing that these types don’t tell you is that while there is always s top 10%, the top 10% aren’t all the same people.
A good education system is a good way to get folks prepared for life after school. But it can’t guarantee you will win life’s race to the top. Nothing government can do can guarantee that unless of course it’s a communist govt.
Posted on 7/3/19 at 2:49 pm to BigJim
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Fighting inequality must come first.
Stopped reading there.
Posted on 7/3/19 at 2:50 pm to doubleb
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he thing is no matter what you do there will always be a top 10%.
The thing that these types don’t tell you is that while there is always s top 10%, the top 10% aren’t all the same people.
A good education system is a good way to get folks prepared for life after school. But it can’t guarantee you will win life’s race to the top. Nothing government can do can guarantee that unless of course it’s a communist govt.
This is honestly completely disconnected from the reality of our school systems and the people that use it.
Posted on 7/3/19 at 2:50 pm to BigJim
Income inequality is awesome. It shouldn't be equal.
Posted on 7/3/19 at 2:50 pm to BeefDawg
But Jordan Peterson would also wipe the floor with a “pull yourself up by your bootstraps” person.
There’s a largish segment of our society that will never be contributors. Not because they’re lazy. But because they’re dumb. And I don’t mean AOC dumb. I mean 75 IQ dumb. You cant educate them to prosperity.
There’s a largish segment of our society that will never be contributors. Not because they’re lazy. But because they’re dumb. And I don’t mean AOC dumb. I mean 75 IQ dumb. You cant educate them to prosperity.
Posted on 7/3/19 at 2:50 pm to BigJim
So they have failed at teaching underprivileged students so now they want to just hand them jobs they aren't trained for and money they don't deserve. frick every liberal and the blame anyone other than the person deserving the blame mentality. Earn your life. You don't get it handed to you.
Posted on 7/3/19 at 2:52 pm to the808bass
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There’s a largish segment of our society that will never be contributors. Not because they’re lazy. But because they’re dumb. And I don’t mean AOC dumb. I mean 75 IQ dumb. You cant educate them to prosperity.
They can be prosperous but probably not rich. You can be dumb and live in the middle class.
Posted on 7/3/19 at 2:57 pm to GnashRebel
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They can be prosperous but probably not rich. You can be dumb and live in the middle class.
They don't even have to be prosperous, they just shouldn't be allowed to get in the way of those who are capable of upward mobility. Unfortunately, this is exactly what happens in public schools. The low IQ kids with no parenting make fun of the kids trying to learn and ruin the experience for the few who want to get out. That and our educational system is slanted towards the side of special education that is helping kids who will never be productive in society rather than investing in gifted and talented programs.
Posted on 7/3/19 at 2:59 pm to BigJim
All the money in the world means nothing. The Is ha proven that. Nothings going will improve until parents in the low income areas of our country get involved in the lives of their kids.
Posted on 7/3/19 at 2:59 pm to GnashRebel
75 IQ isn’t getting a middle class job. They’re not running a shift at McDonalds. They’re not working in Excel. They’re not making sales presentations for time shares.
A person in the 70s will have trouble reading a schedule, let alone making one.
A person in the 70s will have trouble reading a schedule, let alone making one.
Posted on 7/3/19 at 3:00 pm to BigJim
End welfare and abortion so people are required to take responsibility for their kids.
Dad returns home.
Problem solved in one generation.
Dad returns home.
Problem solved in one generation.
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