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re: As a U.S. citizen, when you travel abroad are you still under the jurisdiction of the U.S.
Posted on 6/28/25 at 10:01 am to GumboPot
Posted on 6/28/25 at 10:01 am to GumboPot
If you commit serious crimes in other countries, such as rape, murder, sex trafficking, or crimes against our government you can and may be charged in USA .
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Posted on 6/28/25 at 10:07 am to GumboPot
A Colorado dentist was convicted in the US after murdering his wife on an African safari. But seems like he was convicted for accessory, obstruction, and insurance fraud trying to claim her life insurance, not for the actual murder. Point being, they can probably tie in a US based crime to prosecute if they want even though they don’t have original jurisdiction for the main crime.
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Posted on 6/28/25 at 10:52 am to GumboPot
You have to pay the IRS for any money you earn overseas. So you are at least under IRS jurisdiction.
Posted on 6/28/25 at 10:56 am to GumboPot
I think jurisdiction in the case of birthright citizenship is more than just whether or not you can be arrested and charged by the US government.
Posted on 6/28/25 at 11:02 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:I sure hope you're not trying to tie this to the 14th amendment. That might work on people who are easily distracted but I would bet that most people who are used to your schtick won't fall for it
You're also under the jurisdiction of the country you're physically present in. You can be under jurisdiction of more than one country at the same time
Posted on 6/28/25 at 11:07 am to GumboPot
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As a U.S. citizen, when you travel abroad are you still under the jurisdiction of the U.S.
I'm sorry, but you're still not allowed to have private time with random kids when you're outside of the US.
Posted on 6/28/25 at 11:18 am to GumboPot
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"What do we mean by subject to the jurisdiction of the United States?' Not owing allegiance to anybody else; that is what it means."
Senator Turnbull
Discussion around the 14th amendment
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Now, all that this amendment provides is that all persons born within the United States and not subject to some foreign power -- for that no doubt is the meaning of the committee who have brought the matter before us -- shall be considered as citizens of the United States."
Senator Johnson
Posted on 6/28/25 at 11:19 am to GumboPot
:Whynotboth:
Posted on 6/28/25 at 11:40 am to somethingdifferent
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I sure hope you're not trying to tie this to the 14th amendment.
Technically, OP is doing that.
Posted on 6/28/25 at 12:37 pm to SlowFlowPro
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A better one is a sex tourist who goes to Thailand to have sex with children. They can be prosecuted both by the US and Thailand, as they're subject to the jurisdiction of both countries in that sc
Not too surprised you used this as an example
Posted on 6/28/25 at 1:09 pm to Rip Torn
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He was freed later that month, still in a comatose state after 17 months in captivity. He was sent back to the United States and arrived in Cincinnati, Ohio, on June 13, 2017
A U.S. federal court found the North Korean government liable for Otto Warmbier's alleged torture and death, in a default judgment in favor of Warmbier's parents after North Korea did not contest the case.
He was returned to the US. Why would Korea do that? If they had jurisdiction over him? I'm certain tons of Korean prisoners die in prison. He should have been no exception. Ya know, them having jurisdiction and all
Posted on 6/28/25 at 1:11 pm to trinidadtiger
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I just moved his mom to Mandeville, she said the kid should have gotten his arse beat, and the father wanted to do the talk show circuit".
I thought that she an attorney with ties to the Clinton’s?
Posted on 6/28/25 at 2:47 pm to SlowFlowPro
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You're also under the jurisdiction of the country you're physically present in
You can be under jurisdiction of more than one country at the same time
Which means you are subject to immediate expulsion at any time.
Posted on 6/28/25 at 5:09 pm to GumboPot
There's an old public service commercial that can still be found on YouTube ...... "When you're busted for drugs over there, you're in for the hassle of your life."
It should be dragged back out and shown every day.
It should be dragged back out and shown every day.
Posted on 6/28/25 at 5:20 pm to GumboPot
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As a U.S. citizen, when you travel abroad are you still under the jurisdiction of the U.S.
no
Posted on 6/28/25 at 5:26 pm to LSU0358
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f you are doing lines of coke or kill your wife, you'll be under jurisdiction of the country you are physically in
There are very few federal laws that cover murder. They usually relate to federal elected officials, federal judges, and the sort.
Posted on 6/28/25 at 8:53 pm to GumboPot
In regards to taxes? Oh that’s a big 10-4!!! One of the few countries to do this.
Posted on 6/28/25 at 9:50 pm to UptownJoeBrown
perspectives based on living 20 years in. the Middle East far east
The country you are in has just as many laws as US, and have a few unique that you should know about.
Do not count on the Local US embassy staff to come running to help
You will pay US income taxes during the period you are out of US. The rules are like no other. Having a knowledgable accountant is critical.
If you get stopped a complete lack of local language is preferable to fluency
Carry no bullits to Mexico. One 22 is worth a year in jail.
Lots. of local rules for taking pictures may exist, do to military, slum, female, traffic accident etc. I spent a couple hours in a jail in Kuwait for this one
Always buy the additional car insurance in a foreign company. Otherwise you may forbidden to leave till assessments are made and paid for an accident.
I have successfully used my Texas drivers license as a world wide acceptable drivers document. Every body knows texas right?
The country you are in has just as many laws as US, and have a few unique that you should know about.
Do not count on the Local US embassy staff to come running to help
You will pay US income taxes during the period you are out of US. The rules are like no other. Having a knowledgable accountant is critical.
If you get stopped a complete lack of local language is preferable to fluency
Carry no bullits to Mexico. One 22 is worth a year in jail.
Lots. of local rules for taking pictures may exist, do to military, slum, female, traffic accident etc. I spent a couple hours in a jail in Kuwait for this one
Always buy the additional car insurance in a foreign company. Otherwise you may forbidden to leave till assessments are made and paid for an accident.
I have successfully used my Texas drivers license as a world wide acceptable drivers document. Every body knows texas right?
Posted on 6/28/25 at 10:05 pm to GumboPot
Depends on what you mean? You are subject to the rules of where you are at. But let's say you don't pay your taxes or something like that or some other crime, like terrorism, the US will charge you and come after you where ever you are, up to having you detained and deported back to the US to faces charges.
Posted on 6/28/25 at 10:19 pm to GumboPot
You are subject to the laws of the country you are in. Always. Unless you are a diplomat, in which case you get diplomatic immunity.
Now, the US has strong influence in many countries and can get you out of a jam, but you are exempt from laws of another nation just because you are American.
That said, if you are the right type of person, you will get government help. If you are not of the right type, you will get jack shite.
Now, the US has strong influence in many countries and can get you out of a jam, but you are exempt from laws of another nation just because you are American.
That said, if you are the right type of person, you will get government help. If you are not of the right type, you will get jack shite.
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