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re: Another article about “the Boy Crisis” that gives a different perspective

Posted on 8/31/25 at 10:03 am to
Posted by RohanGonzales
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Posted on 8/31/25 at 10:03 am to
I believe the Founding Fathers assumed when writing the first amendment that obviously destructive ideas would not so easily gain traction.
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 8/31/25 at 10:03 am to
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Probably doesn’t help that women are trained to hate masculinity and are guided to sleep around until they’re thirty, oh yeah, and get they’re career going first.

Touch some grass dude

You're retarded
Posted by Grumpy Nemesis
Member since Feb 2025
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Posted on 8/31/25 at 10:04 am to
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Some men are giving up on women, they aren't worth the bullshite.

That's basically my point. Women have no idea what they are unintentionally building here. They see the current situation where they are doing better in college and other metrics and they think yay we're finally doing it! They're completely oblivious to the fact that even today not a single right exists for a woman that isn't being allowed to Exist by men. And I use the word allowed very intentionally. Feminists need to be careful what they wish for because they're just liable to get it and they're going to be very stunned by the real world results
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 8/31/25 at 10:04 am to
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It probably will, but the time period between now and then is going to have some rough spots.

This didn't happen overnight, either, and if we started right now, it would take years before we could drastically close the college sex gap. De-feminizing school to make it more equitable won't bear results for a while.


It starts when we get rid of 1960s boomers, who were basically the foot soldiers of the feminist march through the institutions.

Gen X isn't too great and millennial women are probably the absolute peak of the modern feminist attitudes.

Gen Z is like a comically bad version of millennial female feminist entitlement.

The millennial women will be the last stronghold of this though. You have to start getting recognition among those who run our institutions...people who fully understand the problems at the ground level and aren't just living in a walled- off echo chamber where you have to signal your feminist bonafides to remain in good standing at the northeastern country club.

Our elites have to understand and FEEL this issue on a personal level as well....we've seen time and time again that elites wont do shite until it personally effects their lives or the lives of those they personally care about.

When Harvard has prominent figures that understand and take AGGRESSIVE action to change the tide, then we're getting somewhere.

The sparks happen within the masses, but the elites have to foster the flame thats lit and guide it in the right direction within the institutions and make the movement rational.

Posted by Ricardo
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 8/31/25 at 10:09 am to
All too often people conflate, "trashy women" with "women."

There's a lot of whores out there, because parents put their little angels on birth control; convinced they'll frick around. And when they inevitably do, it reinforces their decision to put their daughters on the pill.

While this has most certainly led to fewer teenage pregnancies, it has also led to a lot of jaded and lonely spinsters.

Parents, it's your job to raise your daughters to be women and not whores.
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 8/31/25 at 10:16 am to
I may be misreading the selected quotes, but is the author defining friendships as relationships that provide emotional support?

I would say male culture (until the past 10-15 years) did not value emotional dependency on men or women. Men were expected to nut up, make logical decisions and let go of emotional baggage. That of course doesn’t mean that all men are good at it.

But most men of my generation and older do not look toward anyone for emotional support. But we all have really strong relationships with male friends.
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 8/31/25 at 10:17 am to


Read some Camille Paglia
Posted by nealnan8
Atlanta
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Posted on 8/31/25 at 10:23 am to
90% of "The Boy Crisis" is due to not having a father in the household. Divorce and children out of wedlock are the main culprits. And as far as males not being able to communicate emotionally to other men like women do, this is nothing new and has always existed since the beginning of time.
Men solve emotional issues differently than women.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 8/31/25 at 10:31 am to
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Who is guiding and training women to do these things?


Mentally challenged feminists.
Posted by WoodCrafter
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Posted on 8/31/25 at 10:34 am to
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Didn’t read, downvoted.
read this, upvoted.


#MeToo
Posted by billjamin
Houston
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Posted on 8/31/25 at 10:48 am to
I didn’t read it but no one here’s taking advice on being a man from you and your homeless bf.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 8/31/25 at 10:56 am to
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there is only one person who is a regular poster who fits (or is close to fitting) into the nihilism paradigm, and that's kingbob.


First of all, I am significantly younger than most of y’all. I actually spend a lot of time with people in their lower twenties, so I am seeing these issues play out in real time.

Secondly, y’all do realize that I was married before and still date regularly, right? Third, my issues are my issues. Some are within my control, some are not. Some of what I cannot control is environmental, some is cultural, and some is specific to me. Some of my situation is the result of my actions, and I have had help along the way, but a lot of it was due to no good action available to take. In my own life, I focus on what I can control, but I am not afraid to point out bullshite when I see it, especially when that bullshite is political with potential recourse available in the voting booth.

My personal philosophy is simple: I observe a problem. It’s an economic problem, a social problem, a political problem, and a demographic problem. I believe that the fundamental economic problem (the economic value of labor is too low for average workers to afford to effectively marry and raise families during their safe and fertile periods of life to do so, effectively forestalling adulthood indefinitely) is the ultimate driver of the social and political crisis.

I can see that there are some who are noticing it, some who are too removed to notice, some who are ignoring it, and some actively gaslighting to obfuscate it. Some are working towards a solution, while others are victim-blaming or minimizing the problem either out of ignorance or agenda.

If this problem is not solved, the consequences are civilization extinction level risky. Throughout history, this problem has occurred many times. It is a cyclical one. When not resolved via innovation, cultural changes, or peaceful means, it has been resolved through extremely violent conflict, bloody revolution, devastating plagues, or famine that kills upwards of 1/4 to 1/2 of the population, thereby changing the fundamental balance between labor and ruling classes (which in turn results in surviving laborers having more leverage and better economic and social conditions). Statistically speaking, we’re actually overdue.

I do not wish to see such a calamity come to pass. I want to be wrong. I am merely a canary in a coal mine singing a warning. It may already be too late, but I refuse to believe that we, as both individuals and a society, are incapable of fixing this problem without mass death and destruction. I would rather attempt to be a part of the solution than wad my ears and block my eyes as I whistle past the graveyard and pretend everything is okay.

I focus on what I can control and I do okay for myself. It’s not necessarily what I want, but it’s life. However, I think we CAN fix this, we should, and I won’t stop trying to even after bombs start falling.

Much like the Marxists, I recognize that this is a class struggle perpetrated by globalist neo-liberal elites (via mass migration and economic offshoring). Unlike the Marxists, I don’t want to cause the bloody revolution and trigger a collapse where I hope to come out on top. I want to use capitalism to rebuild the economy to greater prosperity for the middle classes, thereby improving the average worker’s economic leverage and situation, avoiding a collapse entirely. I see government institutions too often as an impediment, that they are acting contrary to the text and intention of the constitution in order to do so. Our civilization isn’t dying, it’s being actively murdered, and I want to stop the killing before it succeeds.
This post was edited on 8/31/25 at 11:05 am
Posted by TigerSharkMan
Member since Aug 2025
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Posted on 8/31/25 at 10:58 am to
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So what do you think would happen for a generation of men where 30% or more of them have no hope for a partner?


30% is being generous. For Gen Z, between a declining amount of women who are marriage material, those women who are being marriage material being increasingly hypergamous and going after the top 20% of men and women being unwilling to even remotely "settle" (even though for most they really aren't settling), it's not looking good.

I would say it's more like 70% of men in Gen Z have no real hope for a partner. The only chance many of them will have is if they really compromise on what they are looking for (aka they'll date incredibly overweight women, women with multiple kids, women who have been divorced and possibly multiple times) and really scrap the bottom of the barrel.

It's going to be the middle tier men who are in the most trouble. Very attractive men have never had it better and have their pick. Very ugly men at least accept their options are limited and will probably end up with a very ugly woman, but maybe they'll love each other. But middle tier men are screwed thanks to online dating. Middle tier women think they absolutely are entitled to a very attractive man or at least a man with a big bank account.

And let's be honest. When you have a huge generation of men who are single, that's not good on many levels. Governments have fallen when a huge amount of men are sidelined and have nothing left to lose.
This post was edited on 8/31/25 at 11:01 am
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
19586 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 10:58 am to
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Men and boys aren’t maintaining close friendships because societal norms of masculinity discourage them.


A retarded, misandristic take if there ever was one. No surprise an abject moron like you would latch on to such a smooth-brained conclusion.
Posted by TigerSharkMan
Member since Aug 2025
233 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 11:04 am to
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A retarded, misandristic take if there ever was one. No surprise an abject moron like you would latch on to such a smooth-brained conclusion.


It's really quite pathetic how dumb they are. Take away all the natural spots (men's clubs, golf courses, gyms, Boy Scouts, sports teams, even bars) for men to naturally meet, and we wonder why so many men do not have many or even any close male friends.

Meanwhile women can have their natural spots (women's clubs, book clubs, garden clubs, women only gyms, Girl Scouts, school and higher education) and it's understandable why they have more female friendships.
Posted by TigerSharkMan
Member since Aug 2025
233 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 11:09 am to
On a very basic level, there is another problem with all of this. Isn't being there emotionally what husbands/wives are supposed to do?

I find it hypocritical that so many women are losing their minds because "my man expects me to be my therapist". Two points about this:

1) That should be a GOOD THING! It means the man is being open and honest with you, and trust you.

2) Stop acting like women don't expect their man to take on the same role. How many times do you see women come home from work and rant to the man about their day? Or go off on them because they had a bad day at work? Or want emotional support because they had an argument with one of their friends? Women are guilty of the SAME THING!

That's not to say either men or women in a relationship should act as a therapist. There are topics, when they get to a certain level, that require professional help. But these women aren't wanting men to even remotely rely on them for emotional support. And then these women wonder why men are emotionally stunted and don't open up to them.
This post was edited on 8/31/25 at 11:11 am
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70550 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 11:20 am to
If those men were talking to other women about those things, they would be accused of “emotional cheating”.
Posted by Drizzt
Cimmeria
Member since Aug 2013
14906 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 11:25 am to
I’ve never heard a man say he was not “seen” or “heard.” This is complete bullshite. Women require constant attention or they pout and sulk while saying everything is fine when asked what is wrong. Women are typically emotional vampires in most relationships
This post was edited on 8/31/25 at 11:33 am
Posted by DownSouthJukin
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Posted on 8/31/25 at 11:27 am to
This is gay.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61470 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 11:49 am to
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No wonder you "need feminism.".


? Who are you quoting?
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