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re: Another article about “the Boy Crisis” that gives a different perspective
Posted on 8/31/25 at 12:10 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 8/31/25 at 12:10 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Men dont thrive on affirmation like women do.
This is not true. Humans thrive on affirmation and belonging. How often do men both utilize and reference the downvoting function here to send a message of affirmation or rejection?
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Men thrive on objective meaning. Women dont seem to understand this, and try to treat men like other women.
This is also not true. Humans are emotional creatures. Men commit the overwhelming majority of violent crimes, including murders. Men also commit the overwhelming majority of sexual abuse against children and other adults - do they do this because it's logical/objectively a good choice? Do men commit violence because it's objectively the most logical way to handle a situation? Of course not. They are driven by emotions. All humans are.
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Posted on 8/31/25 at 12:11 pm to 4cubbies
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Men commit the overwhelming majority of violent crimes, including murders. Men also commit the overwhelming majority of sexual abuse against children and other adults - do they do this because it's logical/objectively a good choice? Do men commit violence because it's objectively the most logical way to handle a situation? Of course not. They are driven by emotions. All humans are.
They probably do it because most of them were raised in fatherless homes.
Posted on 8/31/25 at 12:14 pm to 4cubbies
It's like you have taken a few soc courses and think that is the world.
Men have always been the expendable element in a society. In post-modern, post-industrial they have little use at all. Higher education, corporate culture, political correctness are all aligned with the interest of women, as a group. Individual women still suffer but women can expect to have most of society shaped for them, as a group.
Men are suffering for a lot of reason but mostly its how our institutions have all adopted academic/progressive base norms.
Men have always been the expendable element in a society. In post-modern, post-industrial they have little use at all. Higher education, corporate culture, political correctness are all aligned with the interest of women, as a group. Individual women still suffer but women can expect to have most of society shaped for them, as a group.
Men are suffering for a lot of reason but mostly its how our institutions have all adopted academic/progressive base norms.
Posted on 8/31/25 at 12:15 pm to 4cubbies
Feminism has ruined society. For both men and women.
Posted on 8/31/25 at 12:17 pm to 4cubbies
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Men also commit the overwhelming majority of sexual abuse against children and other adults
Not true
Posted on 8/31/25 at 12:17 pm to Undertow
10 DEMOCRAT ATTACKS ON KIDS
1. Pushes for unlimited abortion access, ending the lives of millions of unborn children and devaluing human life from conception.
2. Supports gender-affirming care for minors, allowing irreversible surgeries and hormone treatments on kids that conservatives view as child abuse.
3. Prolonged school closures during COVID, causing massive learning loss, mental health issues, and developmental delays for millions of children.
4. Opposes school choice and vouchers, trapping low-income kids in failing public schools while denying parents educational freedom.
5. Promotes critical race theory and divisive identity politics in classrooms, teaching kids to see each other through the lens of race and victimhood instead of unity.
6. Mandates experimental vaccines for young children, overriding parental rights and ignoring potential long-term health risks.
7. Drives inflation through massive spending bills, making it harder for families to afford basics like food, housing, and childcare, stressing kids’ home lives.
8. Expands welfare programs that foster dependency, breaking up families and discouraging work, which harms children’s stability and future opportunities.
9. Raises minimum wage laws, pricing teens out of entry-level jobs and limiting their ability to gain work experience and independence.
10. Advocates open-border policies, flooding communities with fentanyl and drugs that have killed thousands of young people through overdoses and addiction.
1. Pushes for unlimited abortion access, ending the lives of millions of unborn children and devaluing human life from conception.
2. Supports gender-affirming care for minors, allowing irreversible surgeries and hormone treatments on kids that conservatives view as child abuse.
3. Prolonged school closures during COVID, causing massive learning loss, mental health issues, and developmental delays for millions of children.
4. Opposes school choice and vouchers, trapping low-income kids in failing public schools while denying parents educational freedom.
5. Promotes critical race theory and divisive identity politics in classrooms, teaching kids to see each other through the lens of race and victimhood instead of unity.
6. Mandates experimental vaccines for young children, overriding parental rights and ignoring potential long-term health risks.
7. Drives inflation through massive spending bills, making it harder for families to afford basics like food, housing, and childcare, stressing kids’ home lives.
8. Expands welfare programs that foster dependency, breaking up families and discouraging work, which harms children’s stability and future opportunities.
9. Raises minimum wage laws, pricing teens out of entry-level jobs and limiting their ability to gain work experience and independence.
10. Advocates open-border policies, flooding communities with fentanyl and drugs that have killed thousands of young people through overdoses and addiction.
Posted on 8/31/25 at 12:20 pm to TigerSharkMan
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It's really quite pathetic how dumb they are. Take away all the natural spots (men's clubs, golf courses, gyms, Boy Scouts, sports teams, even bars) for men to naturally meet, and we wonder why so many men do not have many or even any close male friends.
Where do you live without golf courses, gyms and adult sports leagues? Some super rural area?
If there was a demand for these places, would they not exist according to our economic model?
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Meanwhile women can have their natural spots (women's clubs, book clubs, garden clubs, women only gyms,
Who organizes these book clubs and garden clubs? Men?
Is something stopping men from organizing book clubs? My brother is part of a men's bible study group. I imagine that's not the only men's bible study in existence.
quote:People who take the initiative to form a hobby-based group and organize get togethers have more friendships than people who do nothing to foster friendships, regardless of anatomy.
it's understandable why they have more female friendships.
Posted on 8/31/25 at 12:25 pm to hansenthered1
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Men have always been the expendable element in a society.
Always? Women couldn't even open their own bank accounts until the 1970s. Men are stronger than women. Before the industrial revolution, humanity relied heavily on men for survival. Men still possess most of the wealth, power and influence globally. That's not typically a characteristic of an "expendable element of society."
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Higher education, corporate culture, political correctness are all aligned with the interest of women, as a group.
Yet, this is all still dominated by men.
Posted on 8/31/25 at 12:31 pm to 4cubbies
Sorry but you are mistaken the very top for being symbolic of all men. Most men are not powerful. Most men were not, will not be rich. Most men, especially those chewed up and tossed aside or asked to do the dirtiest jobs will never have a voice in the classroom, the soc gender studies department, boardroom, the seats of power, the academic association steering committees. These may have men in them but they are not acting on behalf of the common man nor do they care if the bottom are ground into fish food, so long as they get a nice fish for supper.
Women could indeed open bank accounts without men prior to the 1970s.
Honestly, the grad student idea of gender and sex and history are just stale. So much of this perspective has been debunked that at this point, it feels like those who hold such views are either young and accounting them for the first time in a place where the views are never seriously challenged or older and have become stuck at point where they were in university and have not grown into a realistic adult.
Women could indeed open bank accounts without men prior to the 1970s.
Honestly, the grad student idea of gender and sex and history are just stale. So much of this perspective has been debunked that at this point, it feels like those who hold such views are either young and accounting them for the first time in a place where the views are never seriously challenged or older and have become stuck at point where they were in university and have not grown into a realistic adult.
Posted on 8/31/25 at 12:40 pm to 4cubbies
A patriarchy is inevitable. Men have a monopoly on force because we are physically stronger. So women and men will always have to appeal to men to enforce their rights.
Posted on 8/31/25 at 1:13 pm to 4cubbies
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This is not true
It is very much true. Women require such affirmations far more than men.
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Men commit the overwhelming majority of violent crimes, including murders.
Women commit more property crimes, more thefts like embezzlement. Women also make false accusations of sexual assault far more than men. Women are far more likely to any decision based on emotions over rationality.
Posted on 8/31/25 at 1:16 pm to 4cubbies
The left, the media, leftist parents, social media. Pretty plain to see.
Posted on 8/31/25 at 1:25 pm to kingbob
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kingbob
I don't know if I agree with everything this dude says but I can say he's not just slinging shite pulled out of his arse. Excellent post. I'm not sure exactly how on base you are but you at least frame your discussion as if it's coming from a position of genuine thought
Posted on 8/31/25 at 1:26 pm to 4cubbies
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This is not true
This is true and why feminism is so damaging to boys.
We are t like you internally. We need direction, opportunity and guidance. Not constant affirmation.
Posted on 8/31/25 at 1:27 pm to 4cubbies
Boy problem? Thinking about switching genders?
Posted on 8/31/25 at 1:29 pm to TigerSharkMan
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Middle tier women think they absolutely are entitled to a very attractive man or at least a man with a big bank account.
Short term. When they are still young. This group of women don't see the train wreck coming. But you're already beginning to see a lot of women in their mid to late thirties whining about why men won't commit. Sure there are a lot of women who don't seem to want to be married at all. But this mid-tier group of women that actually wants partners is totally fricked. Because they're just attractive enough when they're 25 to screw top tier guys and it makes them think that's what they're going to land. They're going to look up in there late 30s like the slow person in a game of musical chairs. Then they might start casting their eyes towards men more in their range but then they have a new problem. A lot of those men will have built a decent careers and have access to slightly better women than they had when they were 25. Not to mention they're going to have a healthy frick you attitude towards these women who suddenly figured out they aren't tens
Posted on 8/31/25 at 1:32 pm to 4cubbies
We get it. You hate biological men.
Posted on 8/31/25 at 1:36 pm to 4cubbies
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Yet, this is all still dominated by men.
And teachers molest children.
Posted on 8/31/25 at 1:51 pm to 4cubbies
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Always? Women couldn't even open their own bank accounts until the 1970s. Men are stronger than women. Before the industrial revolution, humanity relied heavily on men for survival. Men still possess most of the wealth, power and influence globally. That's not typically a characteristic of an "expendable element of society."
You are way off base on this one. Men have and always will be viewed as expendable and the vast majority of men has no power whatsoever.
The overwhelming majority of men have been ignored and tossed aside by society. These men do the dirtiest and least respected jobs but without these men the cities would collapse.
You have flown way to close to the sun on this one seeking sympathy.
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Men still possess most of the wealth, power and influence globally.
An insanely small number of men but not the average joe you walk past in the grocery store or you go to church with.
Your problems lie with the ruling class not Joe Six Pack the plumber or garbage man.
Posted on 8/31/25 at 1:52 pm to Clames
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Women require such affirmations far more than men.
How do you know?
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Women are far more likely to any decision based on emotions over rationality.
How do you know?
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