re: A well-written, well defined red flag is a decent idea to stop this stuff

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That's not how it works

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Just like the FISA court isn't used to spy on citizens.

In your fantasy world, Democrats would adhere to the Laws and apply them equally.

That pretend world doesn't exist.

You are worse than IB Screamin, and he was a commie bot.

frick off Biden lover.

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Red flag laws:

a) do not punish innocent people for the actions of a shooter (unlike bans on guns and other regs)

b) give the accused a right to explain himself before his weapons are taken

c) are designed specifically for mentally ill mass shootings, rather than general gun violence

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You, 1 eyed crenshaw and trump are fricking fools.

Tell that to all the conservative supporters who have been jailed and indicted on made up charges for no other reason than to remove them from being an obstacle of a political whim.

Actually, I believe this country had something similar to what you refer to as a red flag law where a person could be committed to an institution on the rod of law enforcement or family members and that ended after a SCOTUS ruling that infringed upon the committed persons civil liberties. You cannot arbitrarily take away someone rights just because you think they are crazy.

If you can't see why red flag laws do not work then you are intentionally not following all scenarios that follow such a law.

Remember back in the 2000’s when gays just wanted to marry and live like everyone else? To be able to file joint income tax returns and get a spouses insurance?

Yea. Me too.

Now peek out of the blinds.

Now apply to red flag laws.

There is no question that Gun Violence Protective Orders (the end result of so-called Red Flag Laws) can be EFFECTIVE. The question is the extent to which they might be subject to abuse. A well-written statute can resolve many (most?) of those concerns, but we are still left with those who remain convinced that their elected judges cannot be trusted with even a well-written law.

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That’s the fault of the politicized judiciary and law enforcement.

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Exactly.

Only an idiot would consider the Rights' distrust and disdain for a majority of Judges in this country to be rooted in paranoia rather than simply observing what's been happening the last few years.

Don't we already have procedures in place for involuntary confinement for mental health reasons?

Red flag laws won't make crazy people not do crazy shite, if anything it will push crazy people over the edge and enrage them

If they are really a danger to themselves or others we need to get them into a facility for treatment to protect the public and themselves

Going in there, and forcibly taking their guns from their homes and hoping they don't have any hidden away because if they do, there will be hell to pay, seems to be a poor strategy.

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if a person exhibits behavior indicating that they might be a threat to themselves or others

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You do realize parents showing up to a school board meeting voicing their disapproval over LBGTQRXYZ grooming in their schools are deemed domestic terrorist, correct? Where would they fall on the red flag spectrum? Freaking moron.