re: A well-written, well defined red flag is a decent idea to stop this stuff

The idea that government of any kind should be able to restrict individual liberty, based solely on a probability of a crime occurring at some unknown point in the future, is a recipe for abject tyranny. In a country of 330 million people, these kinds of depraved acts are going to happen.

Have you noticed that your doctor asks questions about depression, etc every time you visit these days.

Yeah, when the “red flag” laws go into place, any response that they don’t like will be considered a red flag.

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HailHailtoMichigan

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it's a disgrace that you represent the same town which produced these artists

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you ever seen “probable cause” in action?

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So, someone says they have had thoughts of suicide is probable cause? Of what crime, exactly?

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That's not how it works The accused has a right to a hearing before his weapons are taken.

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Who presides over these hearings? And please be very specific, thanks.

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That's not how it works

The accused has a right to a hearing before his weapons are taken.

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THe problem with some of you people is how extremely naive you are and/or how completely ignorant you are to just how shitty and corrupt the real world is.

Not a shot in hell these trials would be fair and neutral

I’ll agree to this if you can tell me how many school shooters obtained their gun legally and as long as the number is above 50%. We know the 18 year old shooter today did not purchase this gun himself legally so that’s one down

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I dont like your politics

I am gonna report that you are crazy and threatening to kill people

See how this works?

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Read those reports and stop being a paranoid idiot.
These dudes were fricked up and it was documented.

Before you give a power to your government, imagine what that government could use that power for if it was wielded by your greatest enemy. Imagine someone who absolutely hates your guts, who is malicious and vindictive beyond all rhyme or reason using that power just to screw you over. If the consequences of that person armed with that power scares you, then the government should never have that power.

Why? Because politics is inherently cyclical. People you trust might be in power this year, then four years later get replaced with radicals with diametrically opposed ideals. As such, any power granted to government WILL eventually be in the hands of someone who absolutely hates you and wishes you were dead. It’s an inevitability. Our government was designed to grant safeguards to the people to prevent their rights from being taken away by such a vindictive government. Any attempts to weaken those safeguards should be resisted at all costs.

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The accused has a right to a hearing before his weapons are taken.

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Leftists: Trump is a tyrant who will take away all our rights!
Also Leftists: I totally trust government, and that they won't violate my rights.

It's gotta be a hard life living like that.