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Posted on 8/25/21 at 3:38 pm to Stidham8
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Reports of the hospital being overrun with people who didn't get the vaccine makes you not want to get the vaccine?
Brilliant.
No less brilliant than you falling for the same bullshite month in and month out.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 3:38 pm to Stidham8
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Tell that to the 200+ people that are currently hospitalized at UAB. And that's one hospital alone in the state of Alabama.
Yeah, at UAB as the "one hospital alone in the state of Alabama. Greene County Health Center in Eutaw is really going to add to that number
Posted on 8/25/21 at 3:39 pm to theunknownknight
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Because it’s eventually “updated” once all the clearinghouses report their data the following month
But you won’t hear that
Did catch which insurer but apparently one is now increasing premiums like 200 bucks based off these #s.
States better start suing in our behalf when it's clear fed intrusion/collusion is getting out of control.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 3:39 pm to Stidham8
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Reports of the hospital being overrun with people who didn't get the vaccine makes you not want to get the vaccine?
Not specifically...but the continual "concerned" posts about what others do does.
If the vast majority of people in the ICU are unvaccinated, and they seem resistant to getting it, who made you the guy that needs to browbeat them into taking it?
Be happy you've taken it and are safer and move on with your life.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 3:39 pm to Stidham8
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Why does this board ignore data like this?
I presume you are located in Alabama? Possibly Birmingham?
Well...... Watch the local news in the AM or PM. It's incessant propaganda about the COVID vaccine. Every expert they interview is from UAB and they all say the same thing over, and over, and over again and have been doing so for a year now. I'm beyond tired of being sold on the vaccine. I honestly don't believe any numbers pro or con generated by any gov't funded institution. UAB is effectively a paid spokesman of the federal gov't. FACT.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 3:39 pm to The Levee
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I’m sure
I’m sure you haven’t really thought about it.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 3:40 pm to Stidham8
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87.5% of UAB ICU patients did NOT receive the vaccine
Why does this board ignore data like this?
What makes you think people are ignoring that data?
According to a quick google search, only 36% of Alabama residents are fully vaccinated. So, if the vaccine was nothing more than a placebo, you'd expect 64% to be unvaccinated.
But regardless of the percentages, the total risk is very, very low. I don't think you comprehend the math.
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Or, you can all avoid the vaccine and be in a permanent state of having ICU's overrun
This is 100% objectively false. ICU's are not permanently overrun. This only happens during spikes which are short lived. Louisiana is already past the peak and numbers are falling strongly, and the vaccination rate has moved very little. The entire wave is going to come and go and vaccination rates will not have changed by a material amount.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 3:40 pm to Stidham8
quote:The data has been manipulated from the beginning.
Why does this board ignore data like this?
quote:And if so, it goes to show the short-term benefit of getting the shot for those who are most likely to be hospitalized from the virus otherwise. It's important to know who is being hospitalized (demographics) and their outcomes, though. We also don't know the long-term outcomes of receiving the vaccines due to the rush to get them to market.
84.6% of hospitalizations for COVID-19 overall are from patients who did NOT receive the vaccine.
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Please go get the vaccine.
No thanks.
quote:OK.
There's no microchip.
quote:OK.
It doesn't alter your DNA.
quote:Can you promise that?
You're going to be just fine...
quote:Considering the vaccinated have started contributing to the spread, I'm not sure how you can claim this.
...and contribute to helping end this pandemic.
quote:Are ICU's overrun just because of COVID patients and nothing else? Are hospitals short-staffed because of the virus itself, or because a lot of staff are quitting or being forced to resign, as well? Are masks and social distancing going to help with such a contagious virus and even if so, are mandates the responsibility of the unvaccinated to address or those imposing the mandates?
Or, you can all avoid the vaccine and be in a permanent state of having ICU's overrun, hospitals short-staffed, and masks/social distancing everywhere.
quote:Likely not, even with a 100% vaccination rate and all other measures put in place.
Because Covid-19 isn't going away.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 3:40 pm to Stidham8
Real crisis require the masses to be calmed and soothed with messages encouraging us to not panic. Funny how with Covid it’s necessary to remind us 10 or more times a day that we should all be deathly afraid!
This post was edited on 8/25/21 at 3:41 pm
Posted on 8/25/21 at 3:40 pm to Stidham8
Someone is ashamed of their source.
This post was edited on 8/25/21 at 3:42 pm
Posted on 8/25/21 at 3:41 pm to Stidham8
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Reports of the hospital being overrun with people who didn't get the vaccine makes you not want to get the vaccine?
Brilliant
Well it’s who’s reporting it that’s the problem.
You see?
Posted on 8/25/21 at 3:43 pm to Stidham8
Hospitals are fudging the numbers
Posted on 8/25/21 at 3:43 pm to Stidham8
It's always in the 80 something percent range no matter who is reporting and where. I find that hard to believe.
Tell us how many are there with the virus, unvaccinated, AND definitely have had the virus previously.
Tell us how many are there with the virus, unvaccinated, AND definitely have had the virus previously.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 3:43 pm to Stidham8
From your own link:
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Doctors say monoclonal antibodies ‘the answer’ to Alabama’s COVID surge
Posted on 8/25/21 at 3:43 pm to Stuckinthe90s
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My question would be how many of those in I see you have received the antibody treatment.
I saw a stat last week where over 10k antibody treatments were given and only 28 of those were hospitalized...not even sure how many made it to ICU.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 3:44 pm to LSU316
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However, I'm hearing the same from rank and file doctors that are my friends that I trust. The same ones that have been telling me for nearly a week that hospitals in LA are looking better and better.
Aren't they getting paid more for dealing with covid patients? Heard one report where reporting vaccination hospitalizations were not incentivized. BTW why pay extra for covid patients? Didn't they clean the room before this?
Posted on 8/25/21 at 3:44 pm to theunknownknight
quote:Oh for fricksakes!
Because it’s eventually “updated” once all the clearinghouses report their data the following month
Do you realize you sound as stupid as your avatar looks.
Every damn US hospital out there is reporting similar data. 80%-95% of US CV19 admits are unvaccinated. The numerous clinicians who post here say the same thing. EVERY ONE of them!
So while there are plenty of concerns you and I may share about "data" and the "science", bullshitting about indisputable facts saps credibility.
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