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re: 83% of Covid-19 deaths were among the Fully Vaccinated past month in UK
Posted on 10/25/21 at 8:48 am to AmericanPsycho99
Posted on 10/25/21 at 8:48 am to AmericanPsycho99
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So you'll believe numbers that match your narrative while ignoring actual government data from a country where you don't reside and has no bearing on the US political system?
There lies your flaw, believing another country/entity doesn't effect the US political system.
Read up on the 2030 Agenda, World Economic Forum etc...
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Posted on 10/25/21 at 8:53 am to AmericanPsycho99
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80+
Vaccinated death rate per 100,000: 156
Unvaccinated death rate per 100,000: 49.5
Do you have these flipped?
quote:
m looking at the data here and it's not really showing what this article is showing. I was curious and the data pretty much says the opposite of what the article says.
So a fake news website is broadcasting fake news? Shocking.
Posted on 10/25/21 at 8:54 am to AmericanPsycho99
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The problem is that the vulnerable people in the US aren't getting vaccinated.
Posted on 10/25/21 at 9:02 am to Dirk Dawgler
quote:Probably why there's been a furious push to make everyone get it.
The further along we get away from the rollout of the poison, the more it becomes obvious.
If you eliminate the control group...
Posted on 10/25/21 at 9:08 am to AmericanPsycho99
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We were talking about hospitalizations and death rates.
The problem is that the hospitalization rates and mortality rates aren’t that different for breakthrough infections.
Massachusetts Data
LINK
Hospitalization rate of breakthrough cases: 3.2%
Mortality rate of breakthrough cases: 0.78%
Oregon Data
LINK
Hospitalization rate of breakthrough cases: 4.4%
Mortality rate of breakthrough cases: 0.98%
Posted on 10/25/21 at 9:14 am to AmericanPsycho99
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Vaccinated death rate per 100,000: 156 Unvaccinated death rate per 100,000: 49.5 Vaccine reduces the death rate by 65% among the 80+.
Looks like it increases death rate
Posted on 10/25/21 at 9:28 am to DaBike
The main stat that's being left out is what % of the TOTAL population is vaccinated.
Posted on 10/25/21 at 9:36 am to Jack Carter
The key stat from the report:
99.978% survival rate for the vaccinatex.
quote:
From 29 December 2020 to 13 October 2021, 832 individuals tested positive for SARS-CoV-2 by PCR more than 14 days after receiving their second dose of COVID19 vaccine and subsequently died with COVID-19 recorded as an underlying or contributory cause of death. This equates to 0.022% of those who have received two doses of COVID-19 vaccines.
99.978% survival rate for the vaccinatex.
Posted on 10/25/21 at 9:36 am to DaBike
What’s the breakdown of vaccinated population by age range. This is needed to make a good analysis.
Posted on 10/25/21 at 9:37 am to AmericanPsycho99
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But the bottom line is, vaccines do reduce the death rates and hospitalization rates among people over 50 quite significantly.
Or, the ones that were more susceptible all died like they did all throughout evolution.
Posted on 10/25/21 at 9:43 am to AmericanPsycho99
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I don't think anybody has a problem with people under 30 not getting vaccinated
The lies come out easy with this one.
Posted on 10/25/21 at 9:55 am to the808bass
Your Oregon link shows that breakthrough cases were only 29% of total cases in the state.
80% of adult Oregonians have been partially vaccinated and more than 70% of adult Oregonians have been fully vaccinated. That suggests that far fewer vaccinated people have had COVID cases compared with their unvaccinated counterparts.
Surely that seems to suggest that breakthrough cases are fairly rare and hence mortality rates are going to be skewed higher (considering that people who are reinfected and hospitalized will be weaker than the average vaccinated person)?
So I'm confused how that shows that vaccines aren't working?
Vaccine -> Reduction in cases (Oregon data) -> Reduction in hospitalizations and deaths.
The mortality rate among hospitalized people doesn't matter, it's the hospitalization rate among vaccinated people that matters.
It's a bit disingenuous to look at mortality rates among people who've had breakthrough cases - people who've had breakthrough cases are not going to be a random sample of the population, they'll almost certainly be weaker and older than the vaccinated population in general.
80% of adult Oregonians have been partially vaccinated and more than 70% of adult Oregonians have been fully vaccinated. That suggests that far fewer vaccinated people have had COVID cases compared with their unvaccinated counterparts.
Surely that seems to suggest that breakthrough cases are fairly rare and hence mortality rates are going to be skewed higher (considering that people who are reinfected and hospitalized will be weaker than the average vaccinated person)?
So I'm confused how that shows that vaccines aren't working?
Vaccine -> Reduction in cases (Oregon data) -> Reduction in hospitalizations and deaths.
The mortality rate among hospitalized people doesn't matter, it's the hospitalization rate among vaccinated people that matters.
It's a bit disingenuous to look at mortality rates among people who've had breakthrough cases - people who've had breakthrough cases are not going to be a random sample of the population, they'll almost certainly be weaker and older than the vaccinated population in general.
Posted on 10/25/21 at 9:56 am to moneyg
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The lies come out easy with this one.
The mandate is because vulnerable people aren't getting vaccinated when they should be. Biden can't exactly force vulnerable people alone to be vaccinated so he has to make it apply to the general population.
Posted on 10/25/21 at 9:59 am to OccamsStubble
Someone missed reading the report?
I made a typo that's now been corrected. It's pretty tedious typing out all the data.
I made a typo that's now been corrected. It's pretty tedious typing out all the data.
Posted on 10/25/21 at 10:00 am to Jack Carter
Typo.
It's now been fixed.
It reduces the death rate.
It's now been fixed.
It reduces the death rate.
Posted on 10/25/21 at 10:02 am to AmericanPsycho99
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The mandate is because vulnerable people aren't getting vaccinated when they should be. Biden can't exactly force vulnerable people alone to be vaccinated so he has to make it apply to the general population.
Force everyone to do something they don't need because some people who should do it, won't. That's your fricking argument? Go frick yourself
Posted on 10/25/21 at 10:13 am to AmericanPsycho99
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I don't think anybody has a problem with people under 30 not getting vaccinated
Holy Smokes. Are you stupid? Name me one city or organization that is mandating vaccines that says those 30 and under are exempt.
NAME JUST ONE.
Posted on 10/25/21 at 10:14 am to DaBike
NO one has been vaccinated, stop calling it a "vaccine".
Posted on 10/25/21 at 10:14 am to Dday63
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99.978% survival rate for the vaccinatex.
Pretty similar to the survival rate for covid in general. The vaccine seems to be the difference between crashing into a wall at 39mph instead of 40mph, only the 39mph crash gives you an increased chance of getting heart and immune system problems.
Posted on 10/25/21 at 10:15 am to jimmy the leg
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Most of the UK has shitty teeth. As such, having more shitty toothed people being infected isn’t a surprise.
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