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83% of Covid-19 deaths were among the Fully Vaccinated past month in UK

Posted on 10/25/21 at 7:49 am
Posted by DaBike
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Posted on 10/25/21 at 7:49 am
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The latest official Public Health data shows that the fully vaccinated accounted for 83% of Covid-19 deaths in the past four weeks, whilst also accounting for 72% of Covid-19 hospitalisations and 56% of alleged Covid-19 cases from September 18th through to October 15th.


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The totals number of cases by vaccination status as confirmed by the above table between September 18th and October 15th 2021 were as follows –

Not-vaccinated population = 32,217 cases Partly vaccinated population = 3,971 cases Fully-vaccinated population = 37,992 cases

This means the vaccinated population accounted for 56% of Covid-19 cases between September 18th and October 15th, whilst the not-vaccinated population accounted for 44%.

However, the difference between the vaccinated and unvaccinated gets much worse when it comes to hospitalisations, with the fully vaccinated now accounting for the majority of Covid-19 hospitalisations since at least July 2021.


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A similar trend can also be seen in the 30 to 59 year-old age group with the not-vaccinated accounting for just 38% of Covid-19 hospitalisations, whilst the vaccinated accounted for 62%. The totals number of hospitalisations by vaccination status for all age groups between September 18th and October 15th 2021 as confirmed by table 19 of the PHS report were as follows –

Not-vaccinated population = 684
Partly vaccinated population = 81
Fully vaccinated population = 1672

This means the vaccinated population accounted for 72% of Covid-19 hospitalisations between September 18th and October 15th 2021, whilst the not-vaccinated accounted for just 28%.


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But yet again the difference between the vaccinated and unvaccinated gets much worse when it comes to deaths allegedly related to Covid-19. The totals number of alleged Covid-19 by vaccination status between September 11th and October 8th 2021 as confirmed by table 20 of the PHS report were as follows –

Not-vaccinated population = 96 deaths
Partly vaccinated population = 16 deaths
Fully vaccinated population = 436 deaths

This means the vaccinated population accounted for 83% of Covid-19 deaths between September 11th and October 8th, whilst the not-vaccinated accounted for just 17%.

Some people may argue that this is expected if the majority of the population has been vaccinated. Which would be true if official data didn’t show that the number of Covid-19 deaths in September / October 2021 are over 2000% higher than the number recorded during the same period in 2020.


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Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 10/25/21 at 7:50 am to
but but but...

-Bananahammock
Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
11875 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 7:50 am to
So, it doesn't work.
Yet, we are still going to force everyone, including newborns, to get it.
CFW. Clown fricking world.
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 10/25/21 at 7:50 am to
It’s nothing more than a placebo at this point
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 10/25/21 at 7:52 am to
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This means the vaccinated population accounted for 83% of Covid-19 deaths between September 11th and October 8th, whilst the not-vaccinated accounted for just 17%.


I'm as anti forced jab as the next guy, but this data doesn't mean shite without knowing the deaths per 100k.

What are those numbers? Are a higher percentage of vax who get it dying than those unvaxed?
Posted by Aubie Spr96
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 10/25/21 at 7:54 am to
I’d really like to know the reason behind all of this. There has to be something else going on.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34197 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 7:55 am to
Most of the UK is vaccinated. As such, having more vaccinated people being infected isn’t a surprise.

However...

What this data tells me is that the vaccine isn’t what is supposed to be in terms of long term protection.

Additionally, given the fact that the UK was doling out vaccines to the elderly en masse early on, natural immunity never had a chance to be engaged on a large scale with anyone over 50.

Lastly, old people die. It is what they do.

Nonetheless, get ready for the regimen of booster shots...or else!
This post was edited on 10/25/21 at 7:56 am
Posted by Jack Bauers HnK
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Posted on 10/25/21 at 7:56 am to
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It’s nothing more than a placebo at this point


A placebo with yet to be determined long term effects while governments are desperate to eliminate the control group of unvaccinated.
Posted by AmericanPsycho99
Member since Sep 2021
121 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 8:04 am to
I'm looking at the data here and it's not really showing what this article is showing. I was curious and the data pretty much says the opposite of what the article says.

Public health data for week 38



Page 14 and 15 will give you the death rate and hospitalization rate among those vaccinated versus unvaccinated.

80+

Vaccinated death rate per 100,000: 49.5
Unvaccinated death rate per 100,000: 156

Vaccine reduces the death rate by 65% among the 80+.

Vaccinated hospitalization rate per 100,000: 54
Unvaccinated hospitalization rate per 100,000: 141

Vaccine reduces the hospitalization rate by 70% in the 80+ group.


70-79:

Vaccinated death rate per 100,000: 13
Unvaccinated death rate per 100,000: 66.4

Reduction in death rate among the vaccinated: 80%.

Vaccinated hospitalization rate per 100,000: 28
Unvaccinated hospitalization rate per 100,000: 92

Reduction in hospitalization rate: 66%.

60-69:

Vaccinated death rate per 100,000: 4.5
Unvaccinated death rate per 100,000: 13.1

Vaccinated hospitalization rate per 100,000: 13.9
Unvaccinated hospitalization rate per 100,000: 74

50-59:

Vaccinated death rate per 100,000: 1.4
Unvaccinated death rate per 100,000: 12.4

Vaccinated hospitalization rate per 100,000: 8.3
Unvaccinated hospitalization rate per 100,000: 51.5



It's clear that vaccination is reducing the death rate significantly. Among the elderly (80+), vaccination seems to have reduced death rates by 65%. This is even more significant as the most vulnerable older people in the UK are even more likely to be vaccinated.

The data shows a similar trend for hospitalization. I'd urge everyone to read the data instead of reading junk newspapers that fit the narrative that you agree with.

For every age group (even the young) in the UK, hospitalization rates and death rates are much lower among the vaccinated compared with the unvaccinated. Exercise a bit more caution when you post articles please.

The bottom line is, vaccines seem to be working from the data the UK government has published.



This post was edited on 10/25/21 at 9:59 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 10/25/21 at 8:06 am to


Not a soul on earth has disputed the idea that the elderly should voluntarily get the vaccine.

What reason do you have for people under 30?
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80160 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 8:06 am to
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Page 14 and 15 will give you the death rate and hospitalization rate among those vaccinated versus unvaccinated.



What I was looking for...

Thanks!
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 10/25/21 at 8:07 am to
No thanks.
Posted by AmericanPsycho99
Member since Sep 2021
121 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 8:08 am to
Just because it doesn't fit your narrative

We both know it.
Posted by ItNeverRains
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Posted on 10/25/21 at 8:10 am to
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It’s nothing more than a placebo at this point



It’s a tattoo.
Posted by SDVTiger
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 10/25/21 at 8:10 am to
What a bag of BS those numbers are


Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/25/21 at 8:11 am to
You’ve been here a couple days. You don’t know anything.
Posted by AmericanPsycho99
Member since Sep 2021
121 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 8:11 am to
I mean I'm not making that argument.

The problem is that the vulnerable people in the US aren't getting vaccinated.

I don't think anybody has a problem with people under 30 not getting vaccinated - it's not them who end up in hospital.

Nevertheless, on page 13 of the UK government data, it shows that for people under 40, case numbers are much higher among the unvaccinated compared with the vaccinated. This could suggest that the vaccine is having some effect on transmissibility but not enough to conclusively conclude it at this stage.

Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
30321 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 8:12 am to
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So, it doesn't work.
Yet, we are still going to force everyone, including newborns, to get it.
CFW. Clown fricking world.
the 17% non vax will be blamed for it.
Posted by AmericanPsycho99
Member since Sep 2021
121 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 8:13 am to
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What a bag of BS those numbers are



So you'll believe numbers that match your narrative while ignoring actual government data from a country where you don't reside and has no bearing on the US political system?
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80160 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 8:13 am to
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case numbers are much higher among the unvaccinated compared with the vaccinated. This could suggest that the vaccine is having some effect on transmissibility but not enough to conclusively conclude it at this stage.



Or that unvaxed are going and getting tested when they show symptoms in case they have it, whereas vaxed aren't, because they have the vax and think its a cold/sinus infection.

Or aren't showing symptoms and still spreading it.
This post was edited on 10/25/21 at 8:14 am
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