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re: Best rifle/caliber combo with little to no recoil

Posted on 11/2/18 at 6:27 pm to
Posted by dawg23
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Jul 2011
5066 posts
Posted on 11/2/18 at 6:27 pm to
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Have a gunsmith put a brake on whatever you get.
Or add a Ken Rucker recoil reducer. I have them on three shotguns - been using them for 6-7 years.

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Ken installs them at his shop in San Antonio. Lifetime guarantee. His customer list includes some of the best known shooters in the US.
Posted by Bleezy
Dirty South
Member since Sep 2018
288 posts
Posted on 11/2/18 at 8:45 pm to
Thanks again to all.
Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
7568 posts
Posted on 11/3/18 at 12:52 am to
The 300 BlackOut, 300/221 or 300 Whisper would be a great youth gun. Others I'd recommend are the 6.5 Grnedel (especially for the AR platform), 260 Rem, 6.5 CM, 7-08 Rem and 308 Win. I imagine all of the above rounds will have more recoil than the 223, but she may still be able to shoot one well; you'll know after a few shots. Whatever the caliber is, start out w/ reduced recoil loads. 25-06, 270 Win, 280 Rem and 30-06 will have more recoil than comparable short action rounds because the larger rounds use more powder. A reduced recoil 308 Win actually recoils less than a full power 243 Win. When my son started hunting at 10 y/o I bought him a full size Savage bolt action (308 Win) package gun w/ regular stock. He shot reduced recoil loads that I handloaded. While it's true he won't notice the recoil from a shot taken at live game, I'd still do everything I could to prevent him from developing bad habits at the bench; bad habits at the shooting bench usually result in bad habits in the field. Tips for shooting from the bench:
Use good ear muffs AND soft plugs at the same time.
Keep the number of shots in a shooting session to a minimum.
Consider a shooting sled of some sort to minimize recoil.
Consider a small sandbag (we used to call it a "sissy bag" when I was growing up) between the butt stock and shoulder if it doesn't mess up how the stock fits.
If it looks like he's having problems handling the recoil, DO NOT force the issue.

Full disclosure: I've never hunted w/ a 7-08 rifle, but I deer hunt w/ a 15" barreled 7-08 handgun (Remington XP-100); it's one of my favorite deer hunting handguns. In addition, I killed 3 hogs w/ it. OTOH, I recently bought a Thompson/Center Compass rifle on sale to be a "grandchild's gun." Guess what it's chambered in....... 7-08.

Good luck and keep us updated!
Posted by TiptonInSC
Aiken, SC
Member since Dec 2012
21216 posts
Posted on 11/3/18 at 5:07 am to
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Never understood the disdain for the 243??!! Not saying it’s the ultimate caliber but it’s great round depending on the situation, if OP is under 200yards it provides the low recoil he is looking for


I Used a .243 when I was 9 to kill my first deer. Not a bad caliber at all.
Posted by pdubya76
Sw Ms
Member since Mar 2012
6550 posts
Posted on 11/3/18 at 5:46 am to
7mm-08 with reduced recoil ammo. My 9 year old hunts with it in a CVA Scout single shot. He is quite accurate with it at 100 yards. It doesn’t have much recoil at all.
Posted by Bleezy
Dirty South
Member since Sep 2018
288 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 10:11 am to
Thanks y'all. Narrowed it down to either .223 or 300 blackout or 22-250. She doesn't want it to kick at all and I hate to pressure her when she is showing such interest. Dad and I took her to bass pro yesterday to let her hold a few different guns to see how they fit her. Leaning towards tikka t3 light compact or Remington model 700 youth. Anything bad to say about either one of those?
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
33728 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 10:21 am to
Both would be good and you can just get a full size stock in the future.

Get her a good set of ear protection while your at it
Posted by GusMcRae
Deep in the heart of the Big Sleazy
Member since Oct 2008
3783 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 1:48 pm to
I have a Tikka T3 in a .270 WSM. I love it, but that short mag, got a kick.

I would go with a 25-06 for the kid.
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
25907 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 3:57 pm to
My kids shoot an AR15 in 300 blk. The adjustable stock is great as they are three different ages and the recoil is non existent.now this is a 100 yd gun for sure but honestly I probably won’t let them shoot much over 50 yds anyway
Posted by 257WBY
Member since Feb 2014
7748 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 4:40 pm to
To avoid recoil, I’d also avoid a light rifle. Also, to beat recoil fears, have her practice with a scoped .22. Save the big rifle for the hunt.
Posted by Shepherd88
Member since Dec 2013
4934 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 5:59 pm to
.243 is the ultimate caliber, I’ll say if. I have a custom built one that’ll shoot 1600 yards accurately with 115 grain DTACs. It is a superior caliber.
Posted by Tbobby
Member since Dec 2006
4358 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 6:47 pm to
.243
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
31574 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 6:51 pm to
6.5 creedmoor is surprisingly mild on the recoil.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
31574 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 7:58 pm to
Savage axis in .22-250 is the most accurate off the shelf, centerfire rifle I have ever shot. Straight up.


It has no recoil too, but I hope she will only be shooting at does or cull bucks, so she can make head shots, or neck shots. With those small bullets, shot placement is everything, unless you don't mind extended tracking, suffering of the animal. Don't mean to preach, but damn...

I think there are heavier grain bullets available for the .243 that might be better for body shots.

As a rule though, recoil is directly related to bullet weight,because of this thing called inertia, and for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.
The heavier bullet that you have to get moving, the heavier that your recoil is likely to be...but..it builds differently in some rounds.

I don't give a crap about trophies, and haven't even shot at a buck in years, but whatever I shoot at, I want it to be instant finish.
If you want her to be a trophy type hunter,(and she also wants), I think you should go with a rifle that will do the job. I think recoil will be part of it.
This post was edited on 11/4/18 at 9:32 pm
Posted by INFIDEL
The couch
Member since Aug 2006
16199 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 8:32 pm to
My 7yo has been shooting a Thompson Center Compact in 7mm-08. It's had great accuracy and the trigger is suprisingly clean. Recoil, even with Hornady performance ammo, has been mild. I am very impressed with the little rifle.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
31574 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 8:42 pm to
quote:

My 7yo has been shooting a Thompson Center Compact in 7mm-08. It's had great accuracy and the trigger is suprisingly clean. Recoil, even with Hornady performance ammo, has been mild. I am very impressed with the little rifle.


Fantastic rifle.
Posted by TopWaterTiger
Lake Charles, LA
Member since May 2006
12379 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 9:14 pm to
enjoying this thread. Been debating this myself for my son. Consensus seems to be 07-08 or 243 or 6.5 creed more, or 223.

Academy had a good deal on a Ruger 243, and came close to buying but held off.

and I have never shot the 6.5, and admittedly know the least about it.
Posted by tigerrage
North Carolina
Member since May 2011
483 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 9:22 pm to
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
31574 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 9:23 pm to
It's not so easy, as just by going by caliber.

.243 has the widest range weights of ammo, it seems, as far as smaller rounds go, but you have to really spend time dialing in for whatever you choose to shoot.

6.5 creedmoor recoil is light and slow, but it does have some.
This post was edited on 11/4/18 at 9:26 pm
Posted by nogoodjr
Member since Feb 2006
859 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 9:32 pm to
My personal experience. Both children started hunting with me. I purchased a 22-250 and used 60g Nosler Partition. Every deer shot died quickly except one. One requires a follow up. Bullet placement is key.

Moved up to. 7mm-08 with reduced recoil loads. I picked the Vanguard youth model that comes with stock LOP adjusters. Good rifle devistating on deer. Moved up to 140g Fusions.

My son now prefers to shoot my 270 and I prefer his 7mm-08. Tonight I shot an 13pt at 170 yards. The bullet passed through both shoulders dropping the deer instantly and it died in the spot. Missed the heart but shock destroyed one whole lung. Fantastic performance.

One suggestion, don’t have the kids shoot paper. Save milk jugs and fill them with water. Shooting then provides instant feedback when they explode and it teaches them to watch the target after they shoot. You take care of sighting in the rifles.
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