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re: Wine grape farmers are setting their fields on fire and selling the land
Posted on 7/30/26 at 2:58 pm to DesScorp
Posted on 7/30/26 at 2:58 pm to DesScorp
Wine has becone like craft beer
Too many options, too expensive, svd most are terrible
Still a place for wine but it’s massively overproduced right now
Too many options, too expensive, svd most are terrible
Still a place for wine but it’s massively overproduced right now
Posted on 7/30/26 at 2:59 pm to Shaun176
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Millennials and Zoomers don't drink alcohol, apparently, and the industry is rapidly shrinking.
Don’t lump us with zoomers

Posted on 7/30/26 at 2:59 pm to DesScorp
Wine has always been a terrible business. No, even moreso.
Posted on 7/30/26 at 3:00 pm to DesScorp
Are we supposed to feel bad for wine grape farmers?
Posted on 7/30/26 at 3:01 pm to DesScorp
We didn't need a gazillion wineries. It made wine less special. We have hit a point where people mass produced things into oblivion, and when the demand shrinks, there is no possible way to weather the storm. This is simply supply and demand. People want something more special now. You can also blame alcohol taxes and California taxes.
Posted on 7/30/26 at 3:02 pm to DesScorp
Cali simply overproduced. Everybody with some land began producing grapes, trying to get rich. Supply and demand.
Posted on 7/30/26 at 3:03 pm to NotoriousFSU
Are we supposed to feel bad for wine grape farmers?
—Because they whine a lot? Give me a grape. Catch a cab and pinot outta here.
—Because they whine a lot? Give me a grape. Catch a cab and pinot outta here.
Posted on 7/30/26 at 3:07 pm to Big Scrub TX
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Wine has always been a terrible business. No, even moreso.
All businesses in crappy states with high taxes and super duper regulations suck. Wine making is often very profitable if done right and in a state that doesn't hate small companies.
Posted on 7/30/26 at 3:12 pm to DesScorp
Man grows pinot noir in a wine region that is bad for pinot noir, not to make wine, but to sell those grapes to people who actually make wine. Vineyard fails.
Yes, the wine industry likely over-expanded during the good years and will probably shrink some in the coming years. A lot of vineyard that grow grapes for actual winemakers will fail. But the winemaking industry, as a whole, will be fine.
Yes, the wine industry likely over-expanded during the good years and will probably shrink some in the coming years. A lot of vineyard that grow grapes for actual winemakers will fail. But the winemaking industry, as a whole, will be fine.
Posted on 7/30/26 at 3:14 pm to Joshjrn
Gotta new place for the shiny new Data Farm Center. Coming near you for your water table.
Posted on 7/30/26 at 3:17 pm to DesScorp
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Sales have also suffered as many younger drinkers have found traditional wines stodgy and difficult to understand, and preferred canned cocktails, seltzers and nonalcoholic beers and spirits.
My generation sucks so bad
Posted on 7/30/26 at 3:21 pm to Deep Purple Haze
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i like wine
Same.
Nothing hits like a fruity Pinot Noir to go along with a good Lebanese/Mediterranean meal.
Zoomers/young millennials are the fricking worst.
This post was edited on 7/30/26 at 3:22 pm
Posted on 7/30/26 at 3:22 pm to DesScorp
Most CA wine taste bad. Most wine from S America tastes good. Markets determine winners and losers
Posted on 7/30/26 at 3:29 pm to DesScorp
bullshite. They're burning them to help fertilize or claim insurance.
Posted on 7/30/26 at 3:31 pm to DesScorp
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Sales have also suffered as many younger drinkers have found traditional wines stodgy and difficult to understand
Man has been drinking wine for 6,000 years, but we’ve found a group that “doesn’t understand” it?
This might be the most retarded generation to ever exist.
Posted on 7/30/26 at 3:31 pm to Potchafa
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They're burning them to help fertilize or claim insurance.
What?
Posted on 7/30/26 at 3:37 pm to DesScorp
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many younger drinkers have found traditional wines stodgy and difficult to understand
Posted on 7/30/26 at 3:42 pm to DesScorp
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Sales have also suffered as many younger drinkers have found traditional wines stodgy and difficult to understand,
If more places are like my neighborhood, the "stodgy and difficult to understand" part may come from a fancy little wine shop and separate specialty wine bar opening on every single block between 2010-15.
They almost all had some stilted sales pitches about what made their selections so "refined."
Now, they're all getting replaced with "bespoke" cocktail and small plate bars that explain why their selections are so "elevated."
I don't blame younger folks for finding all these things marketed as "refined" and "elevated" stodgy.
Posted on 7/30/26 at 3:42 pm to DesScorp
I’m a beer drinker.
I’m no wine snob, but a Cabernet with a steak or spaghetti is delicious. I buy Decoy if I’m feeling all classy and Josh if I have to share.
I recently tried one called Crane Lake because I liked that it had a sandhill crane on the label. $5/bottle and it was actually good. I went back and bought a case. That’s the standard camp wine now.
I’m no wine snob, but a Cabernet with a steak or spaghetti is delicious. I buy Decoy if I’m feeling all classy and Josh if I have to share.
I recently tried one called Crane Lake because I liked that it had a sandhill crane on the label. $5/bottle and it was actually good. I went back and bought a case. That’s the standard camp wine now.
Posted on 7/30/26 at 3:43 pm to deltaland
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My generation sucks so bad
New Wine Market Council Study Finds Millennials Now Largest U.S. Wine-Drinking Cohort
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