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re: Why do Protestant Christians try to use the Bible against the Catholic Church?

Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:11 pm to
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:11 pm to
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I look forwarded to reading at least 95 Theses in this thread about why one denomination is superior to the other...


Neither of these religions are considered the Chosen People's religion.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
24746 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:12 pm to
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The early Catholic Church compiled the Bible. They wrote the New Testament and borrowed the Old Testament from Judaism. It’s not very smart to try to use the Bible against the organization that compiled it to begin with.


You’re an American right?
But you inherited a ton from John Locke, Isaac Newton, the Magna Carta, and so on.

Truth is Truth.

That’s how Protestants should view the Church prior to 1517. It’s still their church too. Since there was only one church until 1054 then any Christian today gets to lay claim to all of that history. Does not the same Spirit indwell every believer?
Posted by STLDawg
The Lou
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Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:12 pm to
Posted by LSUMANINVA
West Virginia
Member since Sep 2004
9522 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:13 pm to
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God the Father is 100% God. Jesus is 100% God and The Holy Spirit is 100% God. That's who I serve.


And by the way, as a Catholic, I just want you to know that this is what we believe too.
Posted by gobuxgo5
Member since Nov 2012
10349 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:13 pm to
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Do you have a crew cut? Is your face red right now? Just curious.



The more petty the post, the more you know who is winning the argument.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
24746 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:14 pm to
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The original church that did all those things split in 1054 AD. So no, the Roman Catholic church is not responsible for writing or “compiling” the New Testament.


This is an excellent point, but our dear OP is being inconsistent.
Posted by gobuxgo5
Member since Nov 2012
10349 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:15 pm to
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And by the way, as a Catholic, I just want you to know that this is what we believe too.



Yes, but you also believe Mary is Jesus 2.0. She lives a sinless life, born without original sin, ascended to heaven. Just like Jesus... funny God sent his Son to showcase what is needed for us to be Saved as we cannot live a sinless life yet, his human mother could pull it off? No scripture to back that up.
This post was edited on 12/14/23 at 9:16 pm
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
157377 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:15 pm to
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Kenneth Copeland, noted Catholic basher, convinced me not to go to confession anymore or take communion. I believe Mr. Copeland’s net worth these days is in the $300 million range
He did make a not bad rockabilly record



Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:15 pm to
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cbree88
So much fail in one post.
Posted by ghoast
Member since Jul 2020
1936 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:15 pm to
What I’ve come to find out is there is an astounding amount of ignorance in this thread from both sides…. and for this site, that’s no small feat. Congrats guys.
Posted by gobuxgo5
Member since Nov 2012
10349 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:17 pm to
Kenneth Copeland has no superiority over Protestants. We don't believe one to be more holy than another. If you are saved you are bought and paid for by Jesus Christ, no one comes close to be worthy of heaven without Jesus. We don't worship preachers, ministers like you would a saint or pope. They aren't anything but saved like us.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
24746 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:17 pm to
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Yes, but you also believe Mary is Jesus 2.0. She lives a sinless life, born without original sin, ascended to heaven. Just like Jesus... funny God sent his Son to showcase what is needed for us to be Saved as we cannot live a sinless life yet, his human mother could pull it off? No scripture to back that up.


I don’t believe she’s the Queen of the Universe or mediatrix of grace, but other than that, why not just let the Mary stuff go? There are more pressing matters to pursue.
Posted by gobuxgo5
Member since Nov 2012
10349 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:17 pm to
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What I’ve come to find out is there is an astounding amount of ignorance in this thread from both sides…. and for this site, that’s no small feat. Congrats guys.



Ive yet to be refuted, so please address my errors.
Posted by Locoguan0
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2017
7270 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:18 pm to
The Bible was put together by Roman politicians 400 years after Christ, then rewritten by English politicians 1200 years later.
"Word of God" my arse.
Posted by OldmanBeasley
Charlotte
Member since Jun 2014
11173 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:19 pm to
The Ohio Holy Roller would be a solid band name.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
24746 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:20 pm to
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Ive yet to be refuted, so please address my errors
Yes you have.

You said that you can’t pray to dead people, and I pointed out that you don’t believe in the most ecumenical of creeds where the communion of saints is mentioned.

So, you can either allow that as a refutation or you can renounce quite a key component of Christianity.
Posted by LSUMANINVA
West Virginia
Member since Sep 2004
9522 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:20 pm to
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The more petty the post, the more you know who is winning the argument.


Oh, my dear friend, I am certainly not arguing with you. When one has the truth, there is no need to argue with those that reject it. I was just asking a few questions and making a few observations, but not arguing. I believe each person needs to find the love of God on their own. Being a good example of a Christian man in real life (not the OT), is certainly something that might draw someone into Christianity, but not arguing and yelling.
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
15442 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:20 pm to
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"Saved by Faith through Grace"


It’s “by grace through faith” but you’re correct.
Posted by Frac the world
The Centennial State
Member since Oct 2014
21634 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:21 pm to
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The early Catholic Church compiled the Bible. They wrote the New Testament and borrowed the Old Testament from Judaism. It’s not very smart to try to use the Bible against the organization that compiled it to begin with.


Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
45369 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:23 pm to
The real answer is when the Church of England was created, it WAS the new Catholic church. So the later revs (Methodist, etc) are just the new versions of the Catholic church, if you believe that sort of thing
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