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re: Why do Protestant Christians try to use the Bible against the Catholic Church?

Posted on 12/14/23 at 8:55 pm to
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 12/14/23 at 8:55 pm to
There are 4 religion threads on the 1st page

Mods take the night off?
Posted by Mushroom1968
Shreveport
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Posted on 12/14/23 at 8:57 pm to
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Then they pray to her


I’m not catholic but I am good friends with an Eastern Orthodox. I always thought they prayed with her, not to her
Posted by gobuxgo5
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Posted on 12/14/23 at 8:57 pm to
Posted by gobuxgo5
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 12/14/23 at 8:58 pm to
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I’m not catholic but I am good friends with an Eastern Orthodox. I always thought they prayed with her, not to her



You can't pray with a dead person.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 12/14/23 at 8:59 pm to
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None of the Protestant denominations of today existed before the Protestant Reformation of the 1500’s
You’re unwilling to understand my point.

Look at how much Luther and Calvin quoted the early church fathers.

As a Protestant, I gladly call Ambrose, Augustine, and Aquinas my fellow Christians.
Posted by STLDawg
The Lou
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Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:00 pm to
Be careful. You might cause them to malfunction if you ask them who wrote the table of contents.
Posted by Rouge
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Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:01 pm to
Protestants are basically religious Confederates....traitors to the Christian faith
Posted by LSUMANINVA
West Virginia
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:01 pm to
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I always thought they prayed with her, not to her


That’s more correct that saying we pray to her. We ask her to pray for us. Just like so many Protestants ask friends to pray for them.

Posted by West Seattle Dude
West Sesttle
Member since Aug 2023
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Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:02 pm to
I’m Catholic and it was watching Christian TV and even some of the anti-Catholic evangelists that brought me back to the Catholic faith after decades of not going to Mass. How ironic. The one takeaway from watching Christian TV is that Kenneth Copeland, noted Catholic basher, convinced me not to go to confession anymore or take communion. I believe Mr. Copeland’s net worth these days is in the $300 million range.

Posted by gobuxgo5
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:03 pm to
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That’s more correct that saying we pray to her. We ask her to pray for us. Just like so many Protestants ask friends to pray for them.



We absolutely don't summon dead friend's spirits and attempt pray with them.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
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Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:03 pm to
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There is no correct or all powerful or all good or knowing man made religion. There is only the word of God. That word is Truth. That word is Jesus. And that word was written on your soul at the dawn of time. You can choose to believe in it or not. That’s all that matters. Faith as small as a mustard seed.


Yeah, but haven’t we made all of those good things a little too abstract? A little too propositional?

This is why I like like my liturgy and being tied to church history through the creeds and prayers of saints before us.
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
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Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:04 pm to
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Protestants are basically religious Confederates....traitors to the Christian faith
We believe in spiritual states rights

Aka the joy of sects
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
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Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:04 pm to
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We absolutely don't summon dead friend's spirits and attempt pray with them.
You don’t believe in the communion of saints?
Posted by LSUMANINVA
West Virginia
Member since Sep 2004
9522 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:05 pm to
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You can't pray with a dead person.


How many times are you going to say that?

I bet you are just one helluva fisher of men. I bet your nets are bursting with converts.
Posted by Gavin Elster
Member since Mar 2020
3452 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:05 pm to
The original church that did all those things split in 1054 AD. So no, the Roman Catholic church is not responsible for writing or “compiling” the New Testament.
Posted by LSUMANINVA
West Virginia
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Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:07 pm to
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You don’t believe in the communion of saints?


He clearly does not.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:07 pm to
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Yeah, but haven’t we made all of those good things a little too abstract? A little too propositional?

What?
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18912 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:08 pm to
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I look forwarded to reading at least 95 Theses in this thread about why one denomination is superior to the other...


Martin Luther was calling out indulgences. He considered himself Catholic upon his death.
Posted by gobuxgo5
Member since Nov 2012
10349 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:09 pm to
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He clearly does not.



I only serve God. Outside of that, everyone else is more similar to me than God. God the Father is 100% God. Jesus is 100% God and The Holy Spirit is 100% God. That's who I serve.
This post was edited on 12/14/23 at 9:10 pm
Posted by LSUMANINVA
West Virginia
Member since Sep 2004
9522 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:11 pm to
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I only serve God. Outside of that, everyone else is more similar to me than God. God the Father is 100% God. Jesus is 100% God and The Holy Spirit is 100% God. That's who I serve. A Saint was a fallen man destined for hell in need of saving just as much as me. We are equal.


Do you have a crew cut? Is your face red right now? Just curious.
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