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re: Why do Protestant Christians try to use the Bible against the Catholic Church?

Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:23 pm to
Posted by gobuxgo5
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Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:23 pm to
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Yes you have.

You said that you can’t pray to dead people, and I pointed out that you don’t believe in the most ecumenical of creeds where the communion of saints is mentioned.

So, you can either allow that as a refutation or you can renounce quite a key component of Christianity.


That's a made up thing not in the Bible. My arguments are based in scripture. By your standard, you could have said that paying for penance was a thing approved by Pope Urban II. I am not talking about made up stuff later on.
Posted by SECdragonmaster
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Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:23 pm to
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The early Catholic Church compiled the Bible.




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They wrote the New Testament


Posted by Stitches
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Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:24 pm to
He sounds more like a solo than a sola kind of guy, if you know what I mean..
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:24 pm to
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What I’ve come to find out is there is an astounding amount of ignorance in this thread from both sides
this is the OT

if you want intelligent insight, read my music board posts
Posted by LSUMANINVA
West Virginia
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:24 pm to
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Yes, but you also believe Mary is Jesus 2.0


I must have missed that teaching when I converted to Catholicism in 1999.
Posted by gobuxgo5
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:26 pm to
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I must have missed that teaching when I converted to Catholicism in 1999.



You certainly did.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:27 pm to
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That's a made up thing not in the Bible. My arguments are based in scripture.
You should probably start reading it more critically then because there were definitely no saints of old present with Christ at the Transfiguration.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:29 pm to
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The early Catholic Church compiled the Bible.


Nope. One guy did in an attempt to increase his power and influence.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:29 pm to
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He sounds more like a solo than a sola kind of guy, if you know what I mean..
Oh, don’t I know it. It’s a shame that he and I both have to claim Protestantism
Posted by Quatre Pot
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:31 pm to
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Because they abused it for centuries and created, I like your term, an organization that is far from a church. So while some groups of people try to spread the word of Jesus and further the kingdom of heaven Catholics seems to worry what rules they need to follow 40 days out of the year to make sure people know what church they belong to. They look down upon everyone yet fail to get the actual most important part of the Bible.


First- I found the dude who is ignorant to Catholicism

Second- it’s ok. Most Catholics are- I’m not which is why I am Catholic

Lastly- why do we waste energy dick measuring the 5-10% of our faith that is different instead of embracing the central truth we share- that Christ is the only savior and path to Heaven? When we fight, the devil doesn’t have to worry about us!
Catholicism is the Church created by Christ himself. The folly of man (on both sides) has led to the splintering of His church. It’s an abomination to be sure, but I know that He turns good from bad so I don’t care where Jesus finds you. I trust Him to lead you to Truth and put you where He needs you
Posted by LSUMANINVA
West Virginia
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:33 pm to
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so please address my errors


1. Your tone
2. Your unChristian-like way of speaking
3. Your generalizations of others
4. You seem militant
5. You don’t seem to possess love in your heart for being “saved”
6. You are a Buckeyes fan
Posted by gobuxgo5
Member since Nov 2012
10349 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:34 pm to
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1. Your tone
2. Your unChristian-like way of speaking
3. Your generalizations of others
4. You seem militant
5. You don’t seem to possess love in your heart for being “saved”
6. You are a Buckeyes fan


Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:34 pm to
quote:

LSUMANINVA
quote:

1. Your tone
2. Your unChristian-like way of speaking
3. Your generalizations of others
4. You seem militant
5. You don’t seem to possess love in your heart for being “saved”
Posted by MWP
Kingwood, TX via Monroe, LA
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:34 pm to
That’s why I follow the Ethiopian Bible.
Posted by ghoast
Member since Jul 2020
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Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:35 pm to
You’re too close minded and ignorant to have a discussion with, carry on my wayward idiot.
Posted by LSUMANINVA
West Virginia
Member since Sep 2004
9522 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:37 pm to
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LSUMANINVA quote: 1. Your tone 2. Your unChristian-like way of speaking 3. Your generalizations of others 4. You seem militant 5. You don’t seem to possess love in your heart for being “saved”




Seriously? I have never been accused of being militant. It’s kind of cool. I have two sons in the military. Now, I have something else we can bond over.
Posted by TCO
Member since Jul 2022
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Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:38 pm to
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Do Catholics not read the Bible?


Not the part about not diddling little boys in the choir room
Posted by gobuxgo5
Member since Nov 2012
10349 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:40 pm to
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You’re too close minded and ignorant to have a discussion with, carry on my wayward idiot.



I'm open minded to debate all day.. I've been personally attacked on at least 4 different posts without attacking anyone else, yet I'm the "militant" Yikes...panties in a wad alert. I've actually explained the main differences in Protestants vs Catholics pretty accurately.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:41 pm to
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You should probably start reading it more critically then because there were definitely no saints of old present with Christ at the Transfiguration.
What point are you trying to make?
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
24746 posts
Posted on 12/14/23 at 9:43 pm to
For those interested, this is, by far, the fairest assessment I’ve ever read concerning the difference of perspective between Catholic and Protestant.

I’m very much a Carl Trueman type of Protestant who understands th importance of unity, but still sees too many hurdles to unite.

quote:

Carl carries with him a memory that many if not most Protestants have forgotten, the old ancestral memory of having once been Catholic, before the events of the sixteenth century. He carries within himself this memory of Protestants’ true home and family, understanding that Protestants as such are in essence Catholics-in-exile whose Catholic ancestors in the sixteenth century made the painful decision to live in exile from the Catholic Church until she had sufficiently reformed, never intending to be or form a permanently separate body or group of bodies. This is what Protestant fathers used to teach to their children. But memories are feeble and naturally fade and grow dull with the passing of the centuries. Eventually Protestant fathers no longer taught this to their children, and these children grew up not even knowing that they were in exile. They came to think that schism from the Church was normal, because they no longer retained even the concept of schism from the Church.

Trueman quotation
They came to believe that the Church Christ founded was not a visible institution, was not even visible at all, even though some still used the term ‘visible Church.’6 For many, if not most, the Church is an entirely spiritual entity to which one is fully united by a merely spiritual act of faith, such as a sinner’s prayer. These descendants of the earlier Protestants have completely forgotten that they were separated from anything. And without this memory, there no longer stirs within them any longing for the conclusion of the Catholic Church’s reformation so that they can be reunited to her. Instead, understandably, their discovery of the Catholic Church’s claim to be the one, holy, catholic and apostolic Church Christ founded arouses in them some degree of resentment and offense.

For them, the question “How would Protestants know when to return?” makes no sense, because they have forgotten that they were waiting to return to anything.


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