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re: What must it be like to grow up surrounded by a wind farm in the Midwest?
Posted on 11/15/21 at 5:13 am to weagle99
Posted on 11/15/21 at 5:13 am to weagle99
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They kill untold number of birds
If you're really worried about bird you should start pushing towards the eradication and banning of outdoor/feral cats.
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Posted on 11/15/21 at 5:25 am to weagle99
I don't know but these anti/pro renewable energy/electric car threads are getting on my nerves.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 5:26 am to Loup
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the eradication and banning of outdoor/feral cats.
I am on board with this. I think TNR programs are very harmful and have argued against them.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 5:34 am to Korkstand
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You guys are a trip. Worried about less than 0.1% of our annual landfill use and less than .01% of the annual bird casualties. Do you really think it's more environmentally friendly to burn 700 million tons of coal vs burying 100 thousand tons of fiberglass? Do you really think it's better to worry about 300 thousand birds than, I don't know, as few as a thousand people?
I really think ‘climate change’ true believers lack the ability or desire to examine the unintended consequences of their religion and when environmental impacts related to their beliefs are discussed they conveniently try to marginalize concerns that otherwise they would be shouting to the rooftops about.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 5:50 am to weagle99
I guarantee more birds have died flying into the windows of my house than from a wind turbine.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 6:08 am to weagle99
They are noisy AF. I saw them ruin many a good view in Iowa. My best friend is buried in a rural cemetery and there is one nearby. Never quiet in the cemetery. They suck.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 7:15 am to weagle99
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I think TNR programs are very harmful and have argued against them.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 7:17 am to weagle99
China is building coal plants, not wind farms, and there’s a good reason why.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 7:27 am to Korkstand
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Wind turbines take energy from the atmosphere. That's how they work. A fan heats up the atmosphere because it adds energy to it. And neither of them will have any impact whatsoever on global warming.
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Highlights
•Wind power reduces emissions while causing climatic impacts such as warmer temperatures
•Warming effect strongest at night when temperatures increase with height
•Nighttime warming effect observed at 28 operational US wind farms
•Wind's warming can exceed avoided warming from reduced emissions for a century
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We find that generating today's US electricity demand (0.5 TWe) with wind power would warm Continental US surface temperatures by 0.24°C.
LINK
Posted on 11/15/21 at 7:29 am to Korkstand
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They kill about as many birds as fossil fuel air pollution kills people.
so which wind company you work for?
Posted on 11/15/21 at 7:37 am to Korkstand
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Across about 50 studies of them, the average turbine produces 20X more energy over its lifespan than it took to produce them.
That's actually not that great at all.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 7:48 am to billjamin
Man, ads are getting pretty direct around here.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 7:53 am to AbitaFan08
Then you have to run a 9 mile sub-sea cable from the wind mill to the shore.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 8:13 am to weagle99
How much electricity can those bad boys make during a hurricane?
Posted on 11/15/21 at 8:16 am to go ta hell ole miss
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I bet you would hate going to the coast in places like Alabama and seeing all those oil rigs obstructing your serenity.
Can't speak for OP, but I went this year for the first time since they've been up. It's pretty shitty looking and disappointing to see after spending a lot of time there as a kid.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 8:19 am to Horsemeat
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Tell everyone youve never left home without saying it.
What?
I’m plenty well traveled and have no idea if it’s windy in the middle of frickwhere Iowa.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 8:20 am to billjamin
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They never stop turning in west Texas during the summer.
"When the wind don't blow in Amarillo, and the moon along the Gunnison don't rise," - Townes Van Zandt's equivalent of "cold day in hell".
Posted on 11/15/21 at 8:38 am to weagle99
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weagle99
This dude is ATE UP with anything that is remotely "green"
Like half his threads are whining about EVs and wind turbines lmao.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 8:42 am to JohnnyKilroy
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This dude is ATE UP with anything that is remotely "green"
I'll take micro nuclear reactors any day over a wind farm.
Had the environmentalists been shut up in the 70's, we wouldn't be discussing climate change today.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 8:51 am to BurningHeart
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Highlights
•Wind power reduces emissions while causing climatic impacts such as warmer temperatures
•Warming effect strongest at night when temperatures increase with height
•Nighttime warming effect observed at 28 operational US wind farms
•Wind's warming can exceed avoided warming from reduced emissions for a century
All that and you didn't take away that this warming is local to the wind farm? And that it's due to re-mixing existing heat? And that it results in cooling elsewhere?
From your link:
quote:In short, redirecting heat to the area immediately surrounding a wind farm does not warm the globe at all.
First, the direct climatic impact of wind power is immediate but would disappear if the turbines were removed, while the climatic benefits of reducing emissions grows with the cumulative reduction in emissions and persists for millennia. Second, the direct climatic impacts of wind power are predominantly local to the wind farm region, while the benefits of reduced emissions are global.
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