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re: What must it be like to grow up surrounded by a wind farm in the Midwest?

Posted on 11/14/21 at 10:30 pm to
Posted by Who_Dat_Tiger
Member since Nov 2015
17441 posts
Posted on 11/14/21 at 10:30 pm to
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Tidal energy is very predictable too, and pretty much out of everyone's sight. It's free energy once you're up and running, and much more efficient than wind and solar. No one even talks about it...huh.

imagine that. Gonna go out on a limb and say it’s because it’s free... big energy lobbyists just as bad as big pharma with all the tech they kill
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 11/14/21 at 10:33 pm to
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You know when you are defeated when you resort to just making shite up.


I note that you deleted the question about the carbon footprint of these ‘green’ devices.
Posted by BurningHeart
Member since Jan 2017
9517 posts
Posted on 11/14/21 at 10:35 pm to
Wind turbines slow down wind speeds and redistribute heat in the atmosphere.

So funny that wind turbines directly cause global warming
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 11/14/21 at 10:35 pm to
You're a weird dude, I find them relaxing to look at
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
13626 posts
Posted on 11/14/21 at 10:37 pm to
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Bonus: Should views and vistas be protected as public property?


I bet you would hate going to the coast in places like Alabama and seeing all those oil rigs obstructing your serenity.
Posted by Horsemeat
Truckin' somewhere in the US
Member since Dec 2014
13528 posts
Posted on 11/14/21 at 10:43 pm to
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Do they just sit basically idle during the summer when it’s 100 degrees on the plains ?
Tell everyone youve never left home without saying it.
Posted by ForeverEllisHugh
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
14808 posts
Posted on 11/14/21 at 10:46 pm to
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Nuclear is far and away the greenest energy source.


Natural gas has a much lower potential for catastrophe
Posted by cable
Member since Oct 2018
9642 posts
Posted on 11/14/21 at 10:48 pm to
We won't let them put one on our ground because we know the people who live around our property. I don't care for them either.
Posted by Tiger985
Member since Nov 2006
6463 posts
Posted on 11/14/21 at 11:07 pm to
The manufacturing process burns more energy than they ever produce.

Net loser.

As a bonus, the materials cannot be recycled. Once they are taken out of service or have blades replaced the blades just end up in some windfarm graveyard out west.

Total scam, and yes they kill shitloads of birds.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
25627 posts
Posted on 11/14/21 at 11:07 pm to
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Nuclear is far and away the greenest energy source.


I am very much for increased nuclear but it is only the greenest source until it isn't.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28708 posts
Posted on 11/14/21 at 11:09 pm to
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They kill untold number of birds
At present, buildings with glass windows kill roughly 2,000 times as many birds as wind turbines in the US. If we ran the country on 100% wind power, they would kill a lot more birds than they do now but still 100 times more would die smashing into windows. And 50 times more would still die being hit by cars. And cats would still kill more birds than everything else put together, by a lot.
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And what is the carbon footprint really considering manufacture, transportation, and maintenance?
Including all that, roughly 50 times less emissions per kWh lifetime vs a natural gas plant. And the energy is cheaper, too.
Posted by Tiger985
Member since Nov 2006
6463 posts
Posted on 11/14/21 at 11:13 pm to
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If we ran the country on 100% wind power


LOL.....and when the wind isn't blowing?

Fun fact.....when the wind stops these ugly arse fans produce no electricity. Nada. Zip.
Posted by cable
Member since Oct 2018
9642 posts
Posted on 11/14/21 at 11:15 pm to
There aren't a lot of windless days out in the middle of the prairie - I grew up there and the wind was constantly blowing
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28708 posts
Posted on 11/14/21 at 11:17 pm to
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The manufacturing process burns more energy than they ever produce.
So many lies in this thread. This one seems to be based on a selective quote, and the man it was attributed to says as much. The truth is in optimal locations they pay back the energy spent producing them in only a few months. Across about 50 studies of them, the average turbine produces 20X more energy over its lifespan than it took to produce them.
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Net loser.
Net winner, bigly.
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yes they kill shitloads of birds.
They kill about as many birds as fossil fuel air pollution kills people.
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76305 posts
Posted on 11/14/21 at 11:19 pm to
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Your mind never gets a time to relax looking out on the horizon because there is always visual disturbance.


You must live in the middle of nowhere if you’re used to this
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28708 posts
Posted on 11/14/21 at 11:19 pm to
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LOL.....and when the wind isn't blowing?
What kind of idiot are you that took that as me suggesting we should run on 100% wind? Was it not obvious that the intent was to show how few birds they kill?
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 11/14/21 at 11:24 pm to
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the lubricant's used on them are highly toxic and ruin the ground if it leaks..


That's funny, the lubricants they use offshore you can basically drink.

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.plus the sound they make causes cancer



Jesus, some people will literally believe anything.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 11/14/21 at 11:25 pm to
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I note that you deleted the question about the carbon footprint of these ‘green’ devices.


Educate us on their carbon footprint....
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28708 posts
Posted on 11/14/21 at 11:25 pm to
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Tidal energy is very predictable too, and pretty much out of everyone's sight. It's free energy once you're up and running, and much more efficient than wind and solar. No one even talks about it...huh.
imagine that. Gonna go out on a limb and say it’s because it’s free... big energy lobbyists just as bad as big pharma with all the tech they kill

Tidal, wind, solar... all of these produce "free" energy because the "fuel" inputs are free. And as technology improves, the initial capital and ongoing maintenance costs will also continue to fall, making the energy "free"-er. Fossil fuel energy sources can't compete long-term, because the fuel can never be free and will always be subject to global market forces.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 11/14/21 at 11:27 pm to
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Tidal, wind, solar... all of these produce "free" energy because the "fuel" inputs are free. And as technology improves, the initial capital and ongoing maintenance costs will also continue to fall, making the energy "free"-er. Fossil fuel energy sources can't compete long-term, because the fuel can never be free and will always be subject to global market forces.



STOP MAKING SENSE!!!!!

Next you will tell me that the uber profitable Oil and Gas industry is also incentivized or subsidized by our Govt....
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