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re: What must it be like to grow up surrounded by a wind farm in the Midwest?
Posted on 11/15/21 at 8:56 am to JohnnyKilroy
Posted on 11/15/21 at 8:56 am to JohnnyKilroy
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This dude is ATE UP with anything that is remotely "green"
Like half his threads are whining about EVs and wind turbines lmao.
It is the unintended consequences that are harmful to nature which bother me, and most of these ‘green’ items create plenty.
I find it fascinating that the ‘climate change’ movement believes fervently that man damaged the planet through unintended actions, while at the same time believing equally strongly that man can fix the problem without any unintended negative results.
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Posted on 11/15/21 at 8:57 am to weagle99
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harmful to nature
Wind farms are a disgusting blight on the terrain.
I imagine most people who push wind power are urban bubble dwellers who couldn't identify a coyote from a cow.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 8:58 am to vol-boy
quote:China is building as much wind power as the rest of the world combined. Since you seem to think that what China does is good, tell us why they're building out wind power.
China is building coal plants, not wind farms, and there’s a good reason why.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 8:59 am to h0bnail
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It's pretty shitty looking and disappointing to see after spending a lot of time there as a kid.
Yep. I don't see how anyone could think planting windmills over hundreds or thousands of acres of land is "green."
Posted on 11/15/21 at 9:00 am to Winston Cup
quote:birds aren’t real
That’s how the government retires their fully depreciated surveillance assets
Posted on 11/15/21 at 9:03 am to Korkstand
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China is building as much wind power as the rest of the world combined
They're currently building 43 new coal fired power plants.
The environmental answer to climate change is more socialism, with poor nations allowed to pollute and subsidized by industrial nations. Typical commie solution, while the middle class in the USA deal with bat shite crazy politics.
This post was edited on 11/15/21 at 9:19 am
Posted on 11/15/21 at 9:10 am to StringedInstruments
quote:I wasn't replying to you and yes, it stay windy in the upper plains year round - winds from the north in the winter and winds from the south in the summer.
I’m plenty well traveled and have no idea if it’s windy in the middle of frickwhere Iowa.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 9:10 am to Korkstand
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You guys are a trip. Worried about less than 0.1% of our annual landfill use and less than .01% of the annual bird casualties. Do you really think it's more environmentally friendly to burn 700 million tons of coal vs burying 100 thousand tons of fiberglass? Do you really think it's better to worry about 300 thousand birds than, I don't know, as few as a thousand people?
kork you are the TD.com Strawman King
Posted on 11/15/21 at 9:14 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Wind farms are a disgusting blight on the terrain.
I imagine most people who push wind power are urban bubble dwellers who couldn't identify a coyote from a cow.
The only land owners in areas with wind development who hate them are the ones that don't have them.
I know plenty of rural folk, 4-5th generation ranchers who love wind energy.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 9:18 am to billjamin
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The only land owners in areas with wind development who hate them are the ones that don't have them.
This sounds like a generic made up fact.
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I know plenty of rural folk, 4-5th generation ranchers who love wind energy.
Ranchers love free government money, and probably benefit.
If you're talking about a windmill or some solar panels to run a ranch, I agree with you. If you're talking commercial sized mega wind farms, no farmer would want that if he's not making damn good money.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 9:19 am to Sid in Lakeshore
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Jesus, some people will literally believe anything.
FWIW I was just quoting the sheer stupidity of that statement when it was made by Orange Man - no-one with any kind of above 0 IQ knows that is not true. I mean I post some stupid stuff here, but I'm not Oweo level bad.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 9:20 am to weagle99
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I find it fascinating that the ‘climate change’ movement believes fervently that man damaged the planet through unintended actions, while at the same time believing equally strongly that man can fix the problem without any unintended negative results.
There are no solutions, there are only tradeoffs.
Government picks winners and losers, things get better for some, worse for others.
Yet, They'll claim "we are in this together."
Posted on 11/15/21 at 9:27 am to supatigah
quote:You don't see these people in here acting like they care about buried fiberglass and some birds? Absolutely nothing we do comes without a price, and they are blowing these prices way out of proportion.
kork you are the TD.com Strawman King
Think of the birds!! Please. Kill a cat and you'll save more birds than taking down a wind turbine. A wind turbine kills something like 5 birds per year. Meanwhile in that same year that same turbine will make a few hundred thousand dollars worth of power and save us from burning a couple thousand tons of coal.
Oh, and then they're worried about the blades taking up maybe 100 yards of landfill space after 20 years of service, nevermind that in those 20 years they produced in the neighborhood of 50 million kWh (you're worried about the big ones, right?). To produce that much with coal, at about 1 lb per kWh that's 50 million pounds. And at ~1,000 lbs per yard, that's 50,000 yards of coal that didn't have to be dug up. And you're worried about 100 yards of landfill? Give me a fricking break.
This post was edited on 11/15/21 at 10:03 am
Posted on 11/15/21 at 9:29 am to RogerTheShrubber
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This sounds like a generic made up fact.
Go ask them for yourself. I have. You can also track the lawsuits and see who's filing against who in development areas.
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If you're talking about a windmill or some solar panels to run a ranch, I agree with you
I was referring to utility scale, but this is also a great use case. I run our entire op off solar with storage backup for off grid capability.
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If you're talking commercial sized mega wind farms, no farmer would want that if he's not making damn good money.
IDK about farmers, but ranchers love it. And yes, there is decent money to be made, but its not life changing. Honestly most just want to cover their expenses and put a little money in the family till. After you exploit every opportunity (pipelines easements, hunting leases, grazing leases with neighbors, etc.) assuming you're not in oil rich environment, you're lucky to break even after you get bent over for property taxes. So, a little steady income from wind, crypto mining ops, etc. is a nice cushion.
This post was edited on 11/15/21 at 9:31 am
Posted on 11/15/21 at 10:38 am to RogerTheShrubber
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If you're talking about a windmill or some solar panels to run a ranch, I agree with you. If you're talking commercial sized mega wind farms, no farmer would want that if he's not making damn good money.
Lmao
Posted on 11/15/21 at 10:41 am to JohnnyKilroy
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Lmao
Typical Zoomer. Doesn't know shite, but can post twitter shorthand.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 10:43 am to billjamin
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but ranchers love it. And yes, there is decent money to be made
Thanks for agreeing with me.
No one wants windmills for aesthetics. Its all about the money they get from gubmint..
In 20 years, it will be all about micro reactors, and hopefully industrial wind farms are all dead.
This post was edited on 11/15/21 at 10:49 am
Posted on 11/15/21 at 11:40 am to RogerTheShrubber
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No one wants windmills for aesthetics. Its all about the money they get from gubmint..
Everything is about money. No one allows drilling, pump jacks, or tanks for no compensation. And that's all subsidized by the "gubmint".
Posted on 11/15/21 at 11:55 am to Korkstand
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kork you are the TD.com Strawman King
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You don't see these people in here acting like they care about buried fiberglass and some birds? Absolutely nothing we do comes without a price, and they are blowing these prices way out of proportion.
Think of the birds!! Please. Kill a cat and you'll save more birds than taking down a wind turbine. A wind turbine kills something like 5 birds per year. Meanwhile in that same year that same turbine will make a few hundred thousand dollars worth of power and save us from burning a couple thousand tons of coal.
Oh, and then they're worried about the blades taking up maybe 100 yards of landfill space after 20 years of service, nevermind that in those 20 years they produced in the neighborhood of 50 million kWh (you're worried about the big ones, right?). To produce that much with coal, at about 1 lb per kWh that's 50 million pounds. And at ~1,000 lbs per yard, that's 50,000 yards of coal that didn't have to be dug up. And you're worried about 100 yards of landfill? Give me a fricking break.
i rest my case
Posted on 11/15/21 at 11:58 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:No shite.
No one wants windmills for aesthetics.
quote:Funny how tax breaks are not the same as "free money" until it's someone you don't like getting the tax break.
Its all about the money they get from gubmint..
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