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re: Walgreens pharmacist denies pregnant woman miscarriage medication over his ethical beliefs

Posted on 6/25/18 at 10:28 am to
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 6/25/18 at 10:28 am to
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I do, yes

If your convictions are that strong about a certain issue, you shouldn't put yourself in a career that might possibly put you in conflict with those convictions

this seems like such a simple thing
Ehhh disagree. Unless the person is working at an abortion clinic where most of their work will be performing that. Then obviously it would be retarded.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
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Posted on 6/25/18 at 10:29 am to
But there’s no religious reasoning behind it. The baby is dead.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 6/25/18 at 10:29 am to
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The medication apparently has other uses.


I'm not sure why this is relevant to the discussion.

You said that the pharmacist should leave his religious opinions at home.

Should an OBGYN working outside an abortion clinic leave his/her religious convictions at home if a patient requests an elective abortion?

What about a pain specialist if a patient asks to be euthanized?

Do you think those doctors should be required to act against their religious beliefs or do you think they should be able to send the patient to another doctor?
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 6/25/18 at 10:30 am to
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he did.


Denying opiates to a suspected abuser is doing his job.

Denying a woman medicine to help her with her miscarriage to help prevent infection is not "doing his job"

Posted by CarRamrod
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Posted on 6/25/18 at 10:30 am to
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Your wife being pregnant is not the same as empathizing with the woman who found out her babys hears has stopped beating in utero.


sure it does. Did you not fear for your babies health though its pregnancy? Or are you not a parent and just talking our of your arse?
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 6/25/18 at 10:31 am to
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sure it does. Did you not fear for your babies health though its pregnancy? Or are you not a parent and just talking our of your arse?


I promise you, it isn't the same

Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
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Posted on 6/25/18 at 10:31 am to
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But there’s no religious reasoning behind it. The baby is dead.


and if it was that severe they doctor would have gotten the hospital pharm to fll it. The Pharm was well within their rights to deny this claim.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
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Posted on 6/25/18 at 10:31 am to
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It is precisely his business. Pharmacists are not required to blindly follow doctors' orders. In fact, they are expected to act as a check on the doctor's prescription and can be held liable if they fail to do so.


Considering she got the medicine, there was clearly no non-religious reason for this pharmacist to withhold this prescription from the woman.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 6/25/18 at 10:31 am to
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The Pharm was well within their rights to deny this claim.


who is arguing that it isn't his "right"?
Posted by UpToPar
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Posted on 6/25/18 at 10:31 am to
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How does a doctor reconcile the fact that his very profession is a slap in the face against gods will? If it’s gods will that you die, and the doctor prevents it, he is denying gods will.


I don't try to understand the reasoning of people's religious beliefs, but I'm all for respecting them where appropriate.
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 6/25/18 at 10:33 am to
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The Pharm was well within their rights to deny this claim.


Sure he is. I didn’t argue he wasn’t.

His reasoning was that he didn’t want to be a part of an abortion. Well, he wasn’t and wouldn’t have been so those beliefs are irrelevant.
This post was edited on 6/25/18 at 10:34 am
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 6/25/18 at 10:33 am to
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Did you not fear for your babies health though its pregnancy?

Sure, but we didn't lose the pregnancy so I don't know what it is like to fill a prescription to void the body of my dead child to avoid surgery.

To say one is the same as the other is asinine.
Posted by Golfer
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Posted on 6/25/18 at 10:33 am to
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If your convictions are that strong about a certain issue, you shouldn't put yourself in a career that might possibly put you in conflict with those convictions

this seems like such a simple thing


Lol.

Where does it stop, though?
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 6/25/18 at 10:33 am to
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Denying opiates to a suspected abuser is doing his job.

Denying a woman medicine to help her with her miscarriage to help prevent infection is not "doing his job"

sure it is. They can do what they want with their licence. They are nor required to fill anything from doctors. Im really surprised you are on the side of pharmacist are required to do anything a doctor says. Look I agree that walgreens has the right to let this pharmacist go if they feel what he/she did was wrong. But He/she was well within their right to deny this script.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 6/25/18 at 10:34 am to
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Where does it stop, though?


what do you mean?
Posted by lsunurse
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Posted on 6/25/18 at 10:34 am to
But he didn’t deny her the medicine.


He just said he couldn’t fill it himself. He has a moral objection to the med used on pregnant women. He has the right to his beliefs and the right to not compromise them in his work.

He offered to send the prescription to another Walgreens. There are a ton of Walgreens in the PHX metro area.
Posted by momentoftruth87
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Posted on 6/25/18 at 10:34 am to
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news flash, the Pharm did his job.


By denying service and having it sent elsewhere after he took out his personal bias on a customer with a script?
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 6/25/18 at 10:35 am to
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who is arguing that it isn't his "right"?

everyone saying he should lose his licence.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 6/25/18 at 10:35 am to
quote]Im really surprised you are on the side of pharmacist are required to do anything a doctor say[/quote]

I have never argued he is "required" to do anything.

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But He/she was well within their right to deny this script.


You need to tell me who is arguing it isn't his "right"
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
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Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 6/25/18 at 10:35 am to
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Yes, people are assholes. It doesn't make it ok.


Now he's an a-hole?

You want medicine to wait for the perfect answer? Ok, keep that same reasoning when you're having a MI and want the doctor to delay treatment until he's absolutely sure what's going on. Let me know how that works for you.

ITT people who know nothing about medicine know that the pharmacist did something wrong.
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