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Update on Nick Tullier, EBR Sheriff's Officer - UPDATE PG. 5 - How can you help!?!
Posted on 11/2/17 at 9:06 pm
Posted on 11/2/17 at 9:06 pm
UPDATE ON EBRSO DEPUTY NICK TULLIER
LONG READ BUT THE FAMILY IS DESPERATE AND ASKING FOR YOUR HELP
This is going to be somewhat of a long read. I’m to the point now that I feel it’s needed and probably overdue. All receiving this need to read and consider what I’m saying instead of immediately thinking I’m off-base. Take time to consume before responding back. Lots, you won’t like what I’m saying. Time to get it out. We go to sleep with this crap (yes I’ve said crap) on our minds. We wake up with it on our minds. We get calls from Lynn McDermott, Nurse Case Manager of Hines & Associates, Inc. to keep it on our minds; plus the calls I’ve received from Collection Agencies wanting immediate payment of past due medical bills. Please someone give me a good (just a good, doesn’t have to be great) reason why after a YEAR, this insurance company can’t get a handle on paying bills due to knowing Nick has been listed under an alias…
Not much need to repeat, though I will. Nick didn’t ask to be shot July 17th, 2016. He was supposed to be on vacation, but was told he had to work or be suspended. So many told us of how sorry they were he was shot and anything and everything would be done to help Nick with survival and his future. Then we lost our home and everything with it. Not long after, the next nightmare began. Dealing with this healthcare insurance. Got calls from Lynn McDermott bringing up we need to tell her where we’ll be moving Nick to after a few months stay in the hospital. The push began and has never stopped. Kept hearing of how Nick’s wellbeing was only in mind. Sorry, that’s not been my take on this issue. It’s been how to cut expenses. Nick’s welfare is number 2. Saving a dollar is number 1. This insurance is not heartful, it’s heartless.
As said, not long after Nick was shot, we’ve been hearing of the need to move home. Where will home be we kept getting asked. Instead of trying to get Nick the best care available, it’s been trying to get Nick zero care or as minimal as possible. In moving into a home environment, he will still need daily therapy, which we can’t give. I had bypass surgery a few years ago and lost the use of my left lung. I was retired but Mary lost her job or “retired” as some tried to call it, so she/we could be with Nick. Due to that, our income fell off the cliff, and we’re burning away our retirement account day by day. Danielle quit her job and stays with Nick 24/7; but that’s not 365. When she has to leave for whatever reasons, doctors appointments and such, Mary then stays with Nick 24/7. Moving into a “home” environment, Nick will still need daily therapy but will still need to be transported there.
So we’re on the same page regarding us being with Nick 24/7. Part of that is due to making sure Nick gets timely medical care & attention whenever anything happens that causes a need. (How would you like an ostomy bag explosion, with feces going all over Nick? Happens in a flash without warning. In a nursing home environment, hours go by without being looked at.) He was SHOT by a vicious criminal. He has bad dreams. It helps for him to open his eyes and see faces he recognizes. The other part is for Nick’s Safety. People have attempted to get to Nick. At least one of those at OLOL was trying to finish the job of the shooter. I’m not making that up. Just check the records. We can’t and won’t take the chance on that not happening again. There is still a poster on the net calling for the demise of Deputy Nick Tullier. The criminal public environment of harming LEO’s hasn’t changed.
Monday a week ago, Mary got a call from Lynn McDermott about Nick needs to be medically retired so he can go on Medicare. Mary was trying to drive to Denham Springs to pickup warmer clothes for Nick and find files at our old house. Just after that conversation, she got rear-ended. Do you think we have great days? Enjoyable days? We make the best out of what’s given and try to see something good. But then get slapped back down by this type of push. To my knowledge, the Sheriff’s Deputies don’t pay into Social Security. As such, they are not able to be covered by Medicare. Even though I’ve said this many times in the past, it keeps raising its head back to us. Why? Are we wrong? Are we missing something? Instead of trying to figure out the best path forward for Nick’s required health & medical needs of the future, it really looks like effort is leaning towards let’s see how fast the insurance can get out of paying anything and everything for the present and future.
We lost our house in the flood and are still trying to settle with insurance. Louisiana Governor Edwards has now joined in trying to assist us with that nightmare. Even so, our old house will/would not facilitate Nick’s needs/abilities. 1917 designs, from when our house was originally built, didn’t look at ADA accessibility. After we ever finally settle, we’ll need to build a new house somewhere that will be ADA setup for Nick’s requirements. A gym area will be required.
We’ve been pushed out of TIRR in Houston where Nick was making tremendous strides in motor skills, to TLC (Transitional Learning Center) in Galveston where everything slowed down. The 1st week at TLC was mostly testing for them to get a feel of where Nick is at mentally and physically. It’s been proven that when Nick doesn’t get therapies daily, he can and will regress. Not long at TLC, stitches were removed from an arm surgery incision and had to be immediately replaced. The incision opened back up deep. Therapies had to be modified so as not to harm the arm.
TIRR Therapy Experts have written scripts for equipment they determined Nick needs. Only to have insurance in all their infinite wisdom turn it down. Who’s the expert? TIRR Therapists that had one on one contact with Nick for many months or some insurance rep that hasn’t seen Nick in person a day in their life???
Someone tell me who’s in charge. Someone tell me what position Lynn McDermott “truly” fills. Someone tell me who to contact with Healthscope Insurance (the Sheriff’s medical plan) directly. Someone tell me who with the Sheriff’s Dept is actually, truly, fighting for Nick that has the power to get something done and solved. I ask that to know who to include in correspondence.
I don’t want phone calls. I’m trying to make sure everyone is on the same page regarding Nick’s present and future health conditions and needs. I prefer to communicate via email. Keeps all on the same page by taking out verbal conversations that most don’t hear. I feel those needed to be in these emails should include myself, Mary, Danielle, Sheriff Sid Gautreaux, Alton Ashy, and an EBRSO HR rep at a minimum.
I want options. Moving Nick into a lowered form of care (nursing home type facility) or where we can’t be with him 24/7/365 is not acceptable, so don’t waste time brining that up…
Our concentration NEEDS to be and MUST be on Nick’s health and therapies. But every time we seem to turn around, we’re diverted away from that by Insurance issues. This has been and continues to be an Impossible Task for Us. You think we want this??? Try waking up in Our World. Or Wake Up In Nick’s World. He’s worried about it as well.
to be continued on next post ...
LONG READ BUT THE FAMILY IS DESPERATE AND ASKING FOR YOUR HELP
This is going to be somewhat of a long read. I’m to the point now that I feel it’s needed and probably overdue. All receiving this need to read and consider what I’m saying instead of immediately thinking I’m off-base. Take time to consume before responding back. Lots, you won’t like what I’m saying. Time to get it out. We go to sleep with this crap (yes I’ve said crap) on our minds. We wake up with it on our minds. We get calls from Lynn McDermott, Nurse Case Manager of Hines & Associates, Inc. to keep it on our minds; plus the calls I’ve received from Collection Agencies wanting immediate payment of past due medical bills. Please someone give me a good (just a good, doesn’t have to be great) reason why after a YEAR, this insurance company can’t get a handle on paying bills due to knowing Nick has been listed under an alias…
Not much need to repeat, though I will. Nick didn’t ask to be shot July 17th, 2016. He was supposed to be on vacation, but was told he had to work or be suspended. So many told us of how sorry they were he was shot and anything and everything would be done to help Nick with survival and his future. Then we lost our home and everything with it. Not long after, the next nightmare began. Dealing with this healthcare insurance. Got calls from Lynn McDermott bringing up we need to tell her where we’ll be moving Nick to after a few months stay in the hospital. The push began and has never stopped. Kept hearing of how Nick’s wellbeing was only in mind. Sorry, that’s not been my take on this issue. It’s been how to cut expenses. Nick’s welfare is number 2. Saving a dollar is number 1. This insurance is not heartful, it’s heartless.
As said, not long after Nick was shot, we’ve been hearing of the need to move home. Where will home be we kept getting asked. Instead of trying to get Nick the best care available, it’s been trying to get Nick zero care or as minimal as possible. In moving into a home environment, he will still need daily therapy, which we can’t give. I had bypass surgery a few years ago and lost the use of my left lung. I was retired but Mary lost her job or “retired” as some tried to call it, so she/we could be with Nick. Due to that, our income fell off the cliff, and we’re burning away our retirement account day by day. Danielle quit her job and stays with Nick 24/7; but that’s not 365. When she has to leave for whatever reasons, doctors appointments and such, Mary then stays with Nick 24/7. Moving into a “home” environment, Nick will still need daily therapy but will still need to be transported there.
So we’re on the same page regarding us being with Nick 24/7. Part of that is due to making sure Nick gets timely medical care & attention whenever anything happens that causes a need. (How would you like an ostomy bag explosion, with feces going all over Nick? Happens in a flash without warning. In a nursing home environment, hours go by without being looked at.) He was SHOT by a vicious criminal. He has bad dreams. It helps for him to open his eyes and see faces he recognizes. The other part is for Nick’s Safety. People have attempted to get to Nick. At least one of those at OLOL was trying to finish the job of the shooter. I’m not making that up. Just check the records. We can’t and won’t take the chance on that not happening again. There is still a poster on the net calling for the demise of Deputy Nick Tullier. The criminal public environment of harming LEO’s hasn’t changed.
Monday a week ago, Mary got a call from Lynn McDermott about Nick needs to be medically retired so he can go on Medicare. Mary was trying to drive to Denham Springs to pickup warmer clothes for Nick and find files at our old house. Just after that conversation, she got rear-ended. Do you think we have great days? Enjoyable days? We make the best out of what’s given and try to see something good. But then get slapped back down by this type of push. To my knowledge, the Sheriff’s Deputies don’t pay into Social Security. As such, they are not able to be covered by Medicare. Even though I’ve said this many times in the past, it keeps raising its head back to us. Why? Are we wrong? Are we missing something? Instead of trying to figure out the best path forward for Nick’s required health & medical needs of the future, it really looks like effort is leaning towards let’s see how fast the insurance can get out of paying anything and everything for the present and future.
We lost our house in the flood and are still trying to settle with insurance. Louisiana Governor Edwards has now joined in trying to assist us with that nightmare. Even so, our old house will/would not facilitate Nick’s needs/abilities. 1917 designs, from when our house was originally built, didn’t look at ADA accessibility. After we ever finally settle, we’ll need to build a new house somewhere that will be ADA setup for Nick’s requirements. A gym area will be required.
We’ve been pushed out of TIRR in Houston where Nick was making tremendous strides in motor skills, to TLC (Transitional Learning Center) in Galveston where everything slowed down. The 1st week at TLC was mostly testing for them to get a feel of where Nick is at mentally and physically. It’s been proven that when Nick doesn’t get therapies daily, he can and will regress. Not long at TLC, stitches were removed from an arm surgery incision and had to be immediately replaced. The incision opened back up deep. Therapies had to be modified so as not to harm the arm.
TIRR Therapy Experts have written scripts for equipment they determined Nick needs. Only to have insurance in all their infinite wisdom turn it down. Who’s the expert? TIRR Therapists that had one on one contact with Nick for many months or some insurance rep that hasn’t seen Nick in person a day in their life???
Someone tell me who’s in charge. Someone tell me what position Lynn McDermott “truly” fills. Someone tell me who to contact with Healthscope Insurance (the Sheriff’s medical plan) directly. Someone tell me who with the Sheriff’s Dept is actually, truly, fighting for Nick that has the power to get something done and solved. I ask that to know who to include in correspondence.
I don’t want phone calls. I’m trying to make sure everyone is on the same page regarding Nick’s present and future health conditions and needs. I prefer to communicate via email. Keeps all on the same page by taking out verbal conversations that most don’t hear. I feel those needed to be in these emails should include myself, Mary, Danielle, Sheriff Sid Gautreaux, Alton Ashy, and an EBRSO HR rep at a minimum.
I want options. Moving Nick into a lowered form of care (nursing home type facility) or where we can’t be with him 24/7/365 is not acceptable, so don’t waste time brining that up…
Our concentration NEEDS to be and MUST be on Nick’s health and therapies. But every time we seem to turn around, we’re diverted away from that by Insurance issues. This has been and continues to be an Impossible Task for Us. You think we want this??? Try waking up in Our World. Or Wake Up In Nick’s World. He’s worried about it as well.
to be continued on next post ...
This post was edited on 11/6/17 at 2:29 pm
Posted on 11/2/17 at 9:07 pm to Will Cover
Refresher on Nick’s conditions:
- Nick is fully cognizant. He understands everything that’s going on.
- Nick doesn’t walk on his own.
- Still doesn’t talk. Can only answer yes/no questions with assistance of supporting his head to allow him to move it.
- Still has an ostomy. Surgery will be needed some time in the future to reconnect his intestinal tract to his colon.
- Still missing most of his skull on the left side of head. Surgery will be needed sometime in the future to insert a plate in place of the missing skull.
- Before the July 2017 surgery to repair his intestinal tract problems, Nick’s eye movement had smoothed out tremendously. Within hours after the surgery, due to not being given anti-seizure meds, Nick had a pretty severe seizure. Since then, Nick’s right eye moves side to side when trying to look at any object or person.
- Nick’s left eye stays turned with eyelids almost closed. Future surgery needed to work on nerve control.
- Speech therapy hasn’t shown signs of continued improvement since the July 2017 surgery/seizure.
- Nick’s hands stay clinched when not in hand splints or in therapy.
- Nick’s arms stay clinched tight to his abdominal area when not having therapies.
- Due to bed size/type, continue to have to be very careful that bed sores don’t develop/redevelop.
- Ostomy & condom cath supplies need to be planned for.
- Medical supplies and equipment need to be planned for.
- Nick requires continued therapies daily.
- Will continue to need assistance for help whenever able to live at home.
- Will continue to need professional therapists working with Nick. We can’t do it. Danielle can’t do it alone.
- Will have to design a house to facilitate the handicap needs of Nick. We are trying, but that will take time.
Sorry to say, this is not a complete list as I can keep adding.
So to Our immediate problems:
We are being told that insurance will not pay for Nick to stay at TLC after November 7th. Who’s moving Nick? We don’t have transportation for Nick. Where is he being moved to? What is being planned for treatments? Who’s got the list of required improvements that are being used to justify Nick being anywhere, getting whatever treatments, getting whatever therapies?
As said, We go to bed with all this on Our minds. We wake up with all this on Our minds. It’s on Our minds on and off through every day. Nick didn’t ask to be shot. We didn’t ask for him to be shot. But We assure you every day feels like punishment. We don’t want sympathy. We want the very best for Nick. He Deserves No Less. Nick was doing his job as a public servant protecting the People. Don’t you think it’s time to return the favor and do whatever needs to be done to protect his future Health and Safety?
James & Mary Tullier
Nick’s Parents
Nick Tullier Strong
Bless this family. I can't even imagine what their life is like on a daily basis.
I truly hope that piece of shite that did this to him and the other brave law enforcement officers last year is burning in hell.

- Nick is fully cognizant. He understands everything that’s going on.
- Nick doesn’t walk on his own.
- Still doesn’t talk. Can only answer yes/no questions with assistance of supporting his head to allow him to move it.
- Still has an ostomy. Surgery will be needed some time in the future to reconnect his intestinal tract to his colon.
- Still missing most of his skull on the left side of head. Surgery will be needed sometime in the future to insert a plate in place of the missing skull.
- Before the July 2017 surgery to repair his intestinal tract problems, Nick’s eye movement had smoothed out tremendously. Within hours after the surgery, due to not being given anti-seizure meds, Nick had a pretty severe seizure. Since then, Nick’s right eye moves side to side when trying to look at any object or person.
- Nick’s left eye stays turned with eyelids almost closed. Future surgery needed to work on nerve control.
- Speech therapy hasn’t shown signs of continued improvement since the July 2017 surgery/seizure.
- Nick’s hands stay clinched when not in hand splints or in therapy.
- Nick’s arms stay clinched tight to his abdominal area when not having therapies.
- Due to bed size/type, continue to have to be very careful that bed sores don’t develop/redevelop.
- Ostomy & condom cath supplies need to be planned for.
- Medical supplies and equipment need to be planned for.
- Nick requires continued therapies daily.
- Will continue to need assistance for help whenever able to live at home.
- Will continue to need professional therapists working with Nick. We can’t do it. Danielle can’t do it alone.
- Will have to design a house to facilitate the handicap needs of Nick. We are trying, but that will take time.
Sorry to say, this is not a complete list as I can keep adding.
So to Our immediate problems:
We are being told that insurance will not pay for Nick to stay at TLC after November 7th. Who’s moving Nick? We don’t have transportation for Nick. Where is he being moved to? What is being planned for treatments? Who’s got the list of required improvements that are being used to justify Nick being anywhere, getting whatever treatments, getting whatever therapies?
As said, We go to bed with all this on Our minds. We wake up with all this on Our minds. It’s on Our minds on and off through every day. Nick didn’t ask to be shot. We didn’t ask for him to be shot. But We assure you every day feels like punishment. We don’t want sympathy. We want the very best for Nick. He Deserves No Less. Nick was doing his job as a public servant protecting the People. Don’t you think it’s time to return the favor and do whatever needs to be done to protect his future Health and Safety?
James & Mary Tullier
Nick’s Parents
Nick Tullier Strong
Bless this family. I can't even imagine what their life is like on a daily basis.
I truly hope that piece of shite that did this to him and the other brave law enforcement officers last year is burning in hell.
Posted on 11/2/17 at 9:19 pm to Will Cover
Man, I would have sworn some equivalent to worker's comp provided coverage for first responders injured on duty.
They talk about collection agencies like they are doing this on private insurance?
They talk about collection agencies like they are doing this on private insurance?
Posted on 11/2/17 at 9:24 pm to Will Cover
quote:Wow! My heart goes out to those poor people.
LONG READ BUT THE FAMILY IS DESPERATE AND ASKING FOR YOUR HELP
I can't figure out exactly what "help" they are asking for other than asking who Lynn McDermott is.
Are they asking for financial assistance? It doesn't appear to be the case.
I'm willing to help....but how?
Posted on 11/2/17 at 9:24 pm to Will Cover
It’s a damn shame that LEO’s / First Responders / Military that get injured in the line of duty have to put up with this kind of crap.
Posted on 11/2/17 at 9:24 pm to Will Cover
Man I feel for them, thats terrible what they going through.
This post was edited on 11/2/17 at 9:36 pm
Posted on 11/2/17 at 9:25 pm to Will Cover
I’ve often wondered what their life must be like on a daily basis now that everyone for the most part has moved on with keeping up with him
Hopefully this gains some traction and the right people will see this. Insane that he was hurt ON THE JOB and insurance is still pulling this shite
Hopefully this gains some traction and the right people will see this. Insane that he was hurt ON THE JOB and insurance is still pulling this shite
Posted on 11/2/17 at 9:34 pm to LSURussian
quote:
I can't figure out exactly what "help" they are asking for other than asking who Lynn McDermott is.
Who is she and who is Alton Ashy?
I’m guessing insurance people? Sheriff office?
That is a damn shame.
Posted on 11/2/17 at 9:43 pm to reverendotis
quote:
Man, I would have sworn some equivalent to worker's comp provided coverage for first responders injured on duty.
100% it should.
The Sheriff's department should be handling all of that b.s and let the family concentrate on Nick's recovery and not medical coverage/billing issues
Posted on 11/2/17 at 9:44 pm to Will Cover
My wife just read this to me. Can't believe how shite is happening for this family.
Posted on 11/2/17 at 9:50 pm to Will Cover
Of all the frankly dumb shite our taxes pay for, how the hell isn't this one of them? He was shot in the line of duty and is having bill collectors calling, yet some moron who refuses to get a job gets money deposited every month on a Purchase Card (obviously there are people in need, but there are definitely people who abuse the system). Disgusting.
Posted on 11/2/17 at 9:51 pm to Martini
THis happens to everybody with major illness, we dealt with this crap the last year with my mom. She went in hospital for bypass surgery, they sawed her open only to find recurrent metastatic breast cancer all in her chest so they didn’t do the surgery... only took biopsies and closed her chest back up. She spent months in the hospital in ICU, had several lung surgeries. Almost died, lost the ability to walk. Then she eventually went to rehab hospital, and all the insurance people could do for months was think of ways to not pay for her care, even though she couldn’t walk or get out of bed. She was in hospitals/rehab for about 7 months straight. Only because she is a badass and kept fighting is she still alive and back home by herself, but insurance company did everything they could to kill her. Took legal threats and doctor letters to get her the care she needed. Now they say she might stick around for a few years even though they said originally she was a goner.
Bottom line is insurance companies only think about money and not human beings
Bottom line is insurance companies only think about money and not human beings
This post was edited on 11/2/17 at 9:53 pm
Posted on 11/2/17 at 9:51 pm to Will Cover
We gonna go beat the shite out of this Lynn Mcfricker person?
Posted on 11/2/17 at 9:51 pm to tigerinthebueche
quote:
What can I do to help?
I am not seeing anything on FB as far as an account or Go Fund Me being set up.
A lot of people are offering advice, those in somewhat the same situation saying they will have to get a lawyer.
Some say they are contacting their Congressmen & JBE.
Its time to start showing up at Metro Council meetings.
The city has money to payoff protesters but can’t pay the medical bills of a Deputy shot in the line of duty?
Posted on 11/2/17 at 9:53 pm to Will Cover
What happened to him his horrible.
Take this next statement with a grain of salt...
Would you want to live your life like this if you were Nick? Can’t walk, can’t talk, can’t provide. None of this will happen in years to come. He will have surgery after surgery after surgery.
Personally, I think I’d tell my family to move on from my life. I know that’s a gut wrenching statement, but he has to be enduring so much pain everyday that I don’t think my life would be worth it at that point.
Take this next statement with a grain of salt...
Would you want to live your life like this if you were Nick? Can’t walk, can’t talk, can’t provide. None of this will happen in years to come. He will have surgery after surgery after surgery.
Personally, I think I’d tell my family to move on from my life. I know that’s a gut wrenching statement, but he has to be enduring so much pain everyday that I don’t think my life would be worth it at that point.
This post was edited on 11/2/17 at 9:58 pm
Posted on 11/2/17 at 9:55 pm to Will Cover
quote:
People have attempted to get to Nick. At least one of those at OLOL was trying to finish the job of the shooter
And wtf is this? Are they saying that an OLOL employee tried to kill him?
Posted on 11/2/17 at 9:57 pm to terd ferguson
quote:
And wtf is this? Are they saying that an OLOL employee tried to kill him?
Yeah, I do feel like that statement needs some documentation.
Posted on 11/2/17 at 10:00 pm to SPEEDY
quote:
department should be handling all of that b.s and let the family concentrate on Nick's recovery and not medical coverage/billing issues
I got burned at work a few years back and all the billing went straight to them. I didn't see bill one.
I'm not doubting the sincerity of their post but some important detail(s) is missing.
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