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re: United CEO doubles down, calls passenger "belligerent", claims United followed rules
Posted on 4/11/17 at 3:46 pm to Junky
Posted on 4/11/17 at 3:46 pm to Junky
quote:
He was actually, he raised his voice at the attendant.
Ahhh I see you're just trolling for reactions. Well played, should've caught onto this earlier.
Why is it that you can only spot a troll when they've really gone off the deep end? It should've hit me earlier that no one could be as dumb as you were pretending to be.
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Posted on 4/11/17 at 3:46 pm to WG_Dawg
quote:Yep, and if the aviation attorneys are correct, he'll face no penalties and be rewarded handsomely with a settlement from United, proving he did nothing wrong and they did lots wrong.
Okie doke, then the police have every right to remove him by any means necessary, which they did.
Not sure what point you were going for there.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 3:46 pm to shel311
quote:
This dude's reluctance to admit that is one of the better cases of a guy just going out of his way to make terrible points just so he doesn't have to concede his original point that I've seen in a while.
Its pretty awesome. He may be trolling at this point but I'm ok with that.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 3:46 pm to lsupride87
quote:dude...what time was the plane schedule to leave Chicago? 5:40pm? they weren't going to drive to Louisville if there was a chance they could fly.
The plane landed at 9:01pm in Louisville
They started asking for volunteers at 3:40pm in Chicago
Posted on 4/11/17 at 3:46 pm to WG_Dawg
quote:
He starts by politely asking the passenger what's going on. Once that ball gets rolling...then what should he have done?
Reported to his superiors that he thinks this person is legally occupying a seat that is rightfully his and that United is trying to illicitly use the police to eject a peaceful passenger for monetary reasons.
Or they can bring down the hammer without thinking and become the problem.
One is easier than the other.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 3:47 pm to shel311
quote:
And their policy very well may say that once the passenger is on the plane, they cannot kick him off for THAT reason. There's a list of reasons, that is not one of them.
Lawyers can be wrong
An article about how they can
Fly Rights DOT
This post was edited on 4/11/17 at 3:48 pm
Posted on 4/11/17 at 3:47 pm to shel311
quote:
Not sure what point you were going for there.
My point was that everything that happened to him was a result of his shitty behavior.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 3:47 pm to slackster
quote:Oh definitely
Just to be clear, I'm about 99% certain the guy had no clue what his actual rights were in the Contract of Carriage. He just so happened to be within his rights in this case, at least as it appears, but he was likely going to be throwing a fit regardless of the legality of said fit.
Perhaps he got lucky, but the policy is what it is...whatever it may be.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 3:48 pm to WG_Dawg
quote:
Okie doke, then the police have every right to remove him by any means necessary, which they did.
What if a Burger King manager told a LEO that you stole a Coke. Things escalate and he shoots you. The video clearly shows later that you were sitting in your seat and that a different white boy with the same stupid Georgia sweatshirt on stole the Coke.
You were still not wrong, but are dead.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 3:48 pm to BloodSweat&Beers
quote:
I am not sure what I would do.
Ask for an additional $1200, free hotel room and ride to hotel, and ride back to airport.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 3:48 pm to WG_Dawg
quote:
agree he had every right to be fuming mad. Any of us would be as well. But there's a reason he is the only 1 of the 4 that was "roughed up" and physically dragged off the flight, and it's because of his behavior.
Which according to everything I am reading is legally justified.
He got beat up for asserting his rights. It happens. He'll probably be paid handsomely.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 3:49 pm to slackster
quote:
but it doesn't excuse United's screw up.
I thought the screw up was how the guy was dragged out. I haven't had much time to read the whole thread, but is that not what people are mad about? Has the security company that employed the culprit received any backlash? Is everyone assuming United said "bust this fricker up?"
Posted on 4/11/17 at 3:50 pm to Chicken
Had I been the pilot I would have had everyone turn off electronic devices before calling security. No electronic devices no video no internet outrage.
Sometimes you have to think outside the box
Sometimes you have to think outside the box
Posted on 4/11/17 at 3:50 pm to SEClint
quote:
Ask for an additional $1200, free hotel room and ride to hotel, and ride back to airport
Probably would have gotten that free ride if he'd asked.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 3:50 pm to WG_Dawg
quote:Nope, that's not correct. If United followed their own (alleged) policy, this would not have happened to him, so you are unquestionably incorrect.
My point was that everything that happened to him was a result of his shitty behavior.
Why would he have thrown a fit about being kicked off the plane that he was never kicked off of?
Posted on 4/11/17 at 3:52 pm to Junky
quote:Your first link, from what I can tell, never addresses United's actual policy, the one that the passenger entered into the contract with, fwiw.
Lawyers can be wrong
If I missed where that article did, my bad, you can quote it for me.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 3:52 pm to Elleshoe
quote:
What's the difference between being told the flight is overbooked sitting at the gate or once you're boarded? It happens all the time
Because generally you know this can happen up until you have a seat number. Generally if you bought an "oversold" flight, you know because you don't have a seat and they won't give one to you. You bought a ticket and it says to check in at the counter or gate to get your seat assignment. Once you have an actual seat number, you are almost always good to go. There are ways for you to almost guarantee a seat now and that's by paying extra to pick one out. That's one of the many ways they are making extra money now. You can risk being the last one out on an oversold flight by not paying extra for a specific seat, or pay the fee.
Furthermore, the big difference here is the safety factor. If someone throws a fit at the gate or counter, its a lot easier to handle from a security aspect then on a small plane.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 3:52 pm to GRTiger
quote:
I thought the screw up was how the guy was dragged out. I haven't had much time to read the whole thread, but is that not what people are mad about? Has the security company that employed the culprit received any backlash? Is everyone assuming United said "bust this fricker up?"
United's screw up was letting passengers board the plane before they "denied boarding." Everything went downhill from there.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 3:53 pm to shel311
quote:
Nope, that's not correct. If United followed their own (alleged) policy, this would not have happened to him, so you are unquestionably incorrect.
They did follow policy, must flies need to fly, so a paid passenger was pulled.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 3:54 pm to Junky
quote:
They did follow policy
Evidently not.
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