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Posted on 2/6/26 at 10:36 am to
Posted by Violent Hip Swivel
Member since Aug 2023
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Posted on 2/6/26 at 10:36 am to
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The American Heart Association


That's wild, man. Watched a documentary not long ago and they are still at it. They still have beef and pork recipes on their "healthy recipes." The documentarian guy interviewed an American Heart Association executive and had him cornered and had the paper trail of donations from Tyson and whoever else, and the executive got up and walked out of the interview.

And then apparently there's this...



Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
26623 posts
Posted on 2/6/26 at 10:36 am to
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Avocado


Yep, love it.

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butter


Even better. I use it almost exclusively. Since getting away from those shitty seed oils, what I thought was maybe arthritis turned out to be inflammation from that shite in my diet.

Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
11928 posts
Posted on 2/6/26 at 10:39 am to
A couple of months ago I was wondering what happened to the Crisco spiral bound cook book that my Grandmother got for sending in a couple of proofs of purchase. It sat on a specific table under her Joy of Cooking book.
What did she do with the fat off of meat she cooked? She saved it in a Crisco can and a local man would collect it everysooften and turn it into soap and give her a couple of bars of soap for washing dishes.

Posted by Pezzo
Member since Aug 2020
3004 posts
Posted on 2/6/26 at 11:29 am to
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accidentally created the largest dietary change in human history.



accident, yea lets go with accident.
Posted by HouseMom
Member since Jun 2020
1933 posts
Posted on 2/6/26 at 11:43 am to
Once you go down the rabbit hole of what's in the U.S. manufactured food supply, you can't ever go back. Reading Michael Pollan's In Defense of Food was life-changing for me.

Shop the perimeter of the grocery store, and eat real food as close to the way God made it.
Posted by Combaro01
Member since Mar 2024
183 posts
Posted on 2/6/26 at 3:42 pm to
This is a good summary of the "Big Fat Surprise" argument. The history of how the AHA got its funding is definitely worth looking into, as it shows how corporate sponsorship can shift public health narratives for decades. Even if you don't think seed oils are "toxic," it’s hard to deny that the transition from butter to hydrogenated fats was a massive, unplanned experiment on the public.
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
33968 posts
Posted on 2/6/26 at 3:52 pm to
I use butter mostly.

I grew up watching my grandfather fry bacon, cook eggs in the grease, and then put the skillet in the fridge for breakfast the next day.

Pretty sure he made it to 90.
Posted by ponyman
Member since Nov 2019
505 posts
Posted on 2/6/26 at 3:57 pm to
Very well done, sir.
Posted by ponyman
Member since Nov 2019
505 posts
Posted on 2/6/26 at 4:01 pm to
One of the main culprits in all these seed oils is linoleic acid. It doesn't take much to cause very unhealthy inflammation, and it damages our mitochondria. Dr. Joseph Mercola says we need to not consume more than 5 grams a day, which is not very much.
Posted by TigerBait1971
PTC GA
Member since Oct 2014
16376 posts
Posted on 2/6/26 at 4:06 pm to
I use Canola oil to make my rouxs for gumbo. Can I use lard instead? Never tried it.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
19567 posts
Posted on 2/6/26 at 4:51 pm to
Problem with these articles, and people like the OP that chose a side with zero critical thinking or due diligence, is that they get very basic facts wrong, like the difference between partial and full hydrogenation.


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Procter & Gamble's response: Quietly reformulate without admission of error. Remove hydrogenation, keep selling seed oils, never acknowledge that their "heart-healthy" product spent seven decades actively causing the disease it claimed to prevent.


Well except P&G did no such thing in their reformulation, they divested themselves of Crisco and Jif well over 20 years ago. J.M. Smucker reformulated Crisco in 2007 and today uses soybean oil, fully hydrogenated palm oil, and palm oil. Full hydrogenation introduces little to no transfats, partial hydrogenation introduces a lot of transfats.

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These oils oxidise rapidly when heated.


Some do, some do not. Many are extremely resistant to oxidation, like Crisco, which I have used to season my cast iron.


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They're rich in omega-6 fatty acids that promote inflammation. They've never existed in human diets at current consumption levels.


Eggs are rich in Omega-6 too. So are a lot of nuts that were/are a major portion of the diets of humans in antiquity so that assertion is pretty much all bullshite.

As for inflammation:
Link

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But they're cheap. Profitable. And the food industry has spent a century convincing everyone they're healthy. The alternative, admitting that industrial textile waste shouldn't have been turned into food, would require acknowledging the last 110 years of dietary advice was fundamentally corrupted from the start.


Like the demand for oils and fats didn't outstrip supply due to burgeoning population and industrialization. Demand outstripped supply and that's what drove efforts into the processes that turned waste into something useful. Which is the case for any number of things we use today, for better or worse.

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Your great-grandmother cooked with lard because that's what humans used for millennia. Then Procter & Gamble needed to sell soap alternatives and accidentally created the largest dietary change in human history.


She also cooked everthing in a big copper pot lined with leaded tin. I know because that copper pot is still in my family and I had it professionally re-tinned (with pure tin) over 10 years ago and the shop that did the work said it still had some of the original lining that had a lot of lead in it. Thankfully it never was used to cook with in my lifetime and is still only a decorative piece of top of the pot rack.
Posted by Shepherd88
Member since Dec 2013
4934 posts
Posted on 2/6/26 at 4:59 pm to
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I would certainly trust your source. I mean, it's on the Internets!!1!1


If you feel like you need a PhD Nutritionist to give you a much further detailed history of how dark it really is, then here’s your source, you can read the whole book.

LINK
Posted by Jimmyboy
Member since May 2025
2306 posts
Posted on 2/6/26 at 5:08 pm to
I never cook with oil. I just pour a little bit of water in the pan or bake stuff in the oven
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
40954 posts
Posted on 2/6/26 at 5:10 pm to
Trump's gonna rename it "Amerola"
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
32169 posts
Posted on 2/6/26 at 6:21 pm to
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If you feel like you need a PhD Nutritionist to give you a much further detailed history of how dark it really is, then here’s your source, you can read the whole book. LINK


Another good book on this subject is Ultra Processed People.

Really opened my eyes to how shitty our food supply has tainted.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
134627 posts
Posted on 2/6/26 at 6:25 pm to
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The process they develop is brutal.


Others would call it chemistry. Do you have any idea how many helpful products are synthesized from harmful precursors?

Posted by Knuckle Checker
Member since Jan 2019
677 posts
Posted on 2/6/26 at 6:59 pm to
Here’s the problem. Most people hear that crisco is bad and think that means bacon fat and butter is good. That’s bad logic.

There is indisputable evidence that high cholesterol causes heart disease. Like very clear studies of people with mutations that cause high cholesterol regardless of diet (they get severe heart disease) and people with mutations that cause low cholesterol (they have no heart disease)

Or studies of remote tribes who have LDL cholesterol levels of like 30 and they have very little heart disease.

Bacon fat and butter increase cholesterol
This post was edited on 2/6/26 at 7:02 pm
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
72125 posts
Posted on 2/6/26 at 7:12 pm to
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I grew up with my mother using Crisco


Same, and margarine, and sheds spread, etc. My 86 year old dad ate enough processed shite in his life to kill a whale and he’s still doing bench presses and shite
This post was edited on 2/6/26 at 7:14 pm
Posted by Lou Loomis
A pond. Ponds good for you.
Member since Mar 2025
1958 posts
Posted on 2/6/26 at 8:53 pm to
Food companies and our politicians that allowed them to poison us should be jailed. And our doctors have been right there with them. Telling us to cut salt, which is totally stupid and backward. Don’t eat eggs. Completely wrong.

I’ve know about how Crisco came about for a long time now. It was also a… machine lubricant before the AHA was bribed into telling us it was healthy.

And to this day, people still think lard is bad. It’s not. They think bacon is bad for you. It’s not. It’s the crap they put in it. People think eggs are bad. They’re not. They’re damn near the perfect food for you.

People think eggs cause cholesterol. They don’t. It is IMPOSSIBLE to ingest cholesterol. It’s your bodies reaction to inflammation. Cut the things that are inflammatory. Like seed oils. And eat more natural fats. They’re the least inflammatory food we eat.

You want to know what not to eat? Think marshmallows at a campfire. That how sugar reacts with your body.
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
14599 posts
Posted on 2/6/26 at 9:06 pm to
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cholesterol
There's been a lot of advances concerning cholesterol if you still think there are only two types.
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