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re: There was a Pfizer data dump of 90,702 pages while people were arguing about RvW

Posted on 5/4/22 at 9:23 am to
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43396 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 9:23 am to
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There are going to be some hearings on this at some point, and it is going to be ugly.


There will be hearings, politicians will grandstand, and Pfizer will quietly contribute more money to their campaign funds and it will disappear with Congress doing absolutely nothing.

So in other words, Congress as usual.
This post was edited on 5/4/22 at 9:24 am
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43308 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 9:24 am to
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Pfizer knew the vaccine harmed the fetus in pregnant women





That's disingenuous a description as I've seen. The pic just below says they don't know if it affects pregnant women but couldn't rule it out.


That alone makes me skeptical of all of those snippets.

It is still horrible if they didn't test further and urged pregnant women to get vaccinated.
This post was edited on 5/4/22 at 9:27 am
Posted by sgallo3
Dorne
Member since Sep 2008
24747 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 9:25 am to
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They vaxxed 270 pregnant women.

There is no feedback on 238, but of the other 32 there was only one live birth.


The no feedback is flawed terminology. The other 238 were ongoing pregnancies at the time of the study
quote:

Miscarriage is the spontaneous loss of a pregnancy before the 20th week. About 10 to 20 percent of known pregnancies end in miscarriage.

So 31 out of 270 puts us on the lower end of that 10 to 20 percent range.
This post was edited on 5/4/22 at 9:32 am
Posted by Abstract Queso Dip
Member since Mar 2021
5878 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 9:25 am to
I know no one that had vaccine complications. I know of a few either that died or had long term Covid problems.

Anecdotal I know. I'm still a proud shareholder and Pfizer mutant though. X-Men 4 life
This post was edited on 5/4/22 at 9:26 am
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
120439 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 9:26 am to
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The data appears to admit that there is either a definite impact or they have no idea.


More likely they have no idea which is common for a lot of drugs

Posted by Bottom9
Arsenal Til I Die
Member since Jul 2010
21821 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 9:27 am to
US Congressmen who has invested in Pfizer and the amounts they invested:

LINK

Sensenbrenner, Jim - Republican $1,018,814 - $5,018,813 House

Gianforte, Greg - Republican $797,130 House

Upton, Fred - Republican $165,003 - $400,000 House

Schrader, Kurt - Democrat $100,001 - $250,000 House

Cook, Paul - Republican $100,001 - $250,000 House

Lawson, Al - Democrat $45,003 - $150,000 House

Dingell, Debbie - Democrat $50,001 - $100,000 House

Roe, Phil - Republican $91,446 House

Capito, Shelley Moore - Republican $16,002 - $65,000 Senate

Kennedy, Joe III - Democrat $16,002 - $65,000 House

Holding, George - Republican $15,001 - $50,000 House

Kelly, Mike - Republican $15,001 - $50,000 House

Gottheimer, Josh - Democrat $15,001 - $50,000 House

Rosen, Jacky - Democrat $15,001 - $50,000 Senate

Wyden, Ron - Democrat $15,001 - $50,000 Senate

Blumenauer, Earl - Democrat $15,001 - $50,000 House

Peters, Gary - Democrat $15,001 - $50,000 Senate

Conaway, Mike - Republican $15,001 - $50,000 House

Sires, Albio - Democrat $15,001 - $50,000 House

Whitehouse, Sheldon - Democrat $15,001 - $50,000 Senate

Norman, Ralph - Republican $15,001 - $50,000 House

Hill, French - Republican $15,001 - $50,000 House

Yarmuth, John - Democrat $1,001 - $15,000 House

Wittman, Rob - Republican $1,001 - $15,000 House

Carper, Tom - Democrat $1,001 - $15,000 Senate

Burgess, Michael - Republican $1,001 - $15,000 House

Scott, Bobby - Democrat $1,001 - $15,000 House

Frankel, Lois - Democrat $1,001 - $15,000 House

Suozzi, Tom - Democrat $1,001 - $15,000 House

Rutherford, John - Republican $1,001 - $15,000 House

Marshall, Roger - Republican $1,001 - $15,000 House

Evans, Dwight - Democrat $1,001 - $15,000 House

Gibbs, Bob - Republican $1,001 - $15,000 House

Barr, Andy - Republican $1,001 - $15,000 House

Williams, Roger - Republican $1,001 - $15,000 House

Perdue, David - Republican $0 - $1,000 Senate

Collins, Susan M - Republican $0 - $1,000 Senate
This post was edited on 5/4/22 at 9:29 am
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72196 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 9:27 am to
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That's disingenuous a description as I've seen. The pic just below says they don't know if it affects pregnant women but couldn't rule it out.
It states that it was not recommended in pregnancy or with breastfeeding.

Why would they then say that it was safe in pregnancy and breastfeeding?

It apparently also states that they have no idea as to its impact on fertility.

Why would they then claim that it has no impact on fertility?
Posted by sgallo3
Dorne
Member since Sep 2008
24747 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 9:28 am to
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Why would they then claim that it has no impact on fertility?


Ummm... Money?
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43308 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 9:28 am to
I'm not disagreeing with that at all. If they weren't certain it was safe then there should not have been a recommendation.

My post was specifically about the messaging from wherever stout posted from.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72196 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 9:29 am to
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More likely they have no idea which is common for a lot of drugs
Yes, it is common, but we don’t tell people the opposite of that.

We don’t tell them that it is safe if we don’t know.

That is not what happened here.
Posted by BigDawg0420
Hamsterdam
Member since Apr 2010
7398 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 9:30 am to
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I'd watch the news throughout the day


There's your problem.
Posted by El Magnifico
La casa de tu mamá
Member since Jan 2014
7017 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 9:30 am to
Posted by LSUfanNkaty
LC, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
11129 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 9:31 am to
I'm honestly thinking about going and getting my vasectomy reversed... my pure blood swimmers are going to be worth mucho dollars
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28716 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 9:31 am to
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So 1 out of 45 died?

bullshite
Yeah obvious fricky math going on here. This "article" makes it out as if these 1223 deaths happened in some trial of only 46k people, but the chart is labeled "post-authorization". These are reported deaths after the vaccines rolled out to untold millions.

Also the miscarriage rate in the report is pretty well in line with average rates.
Posted by Bistineaubengal
Member since Aug 2008
807 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 9:31 am to
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Glad me and my family are all purebloods......it didn't take a whole lot of critical thought to know the jab was a bad idea.



We had several family members cave in to the relentless propaganda, including our kid at LSU.

I will never look at LSU the same way again.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79326 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 9:31 am to
Yeah it doesn't mean anything, just like 90% of drugs out there for pregnant women

You try and look up a drug for a pregnant wife and it's like "well it killed some mice fetuses in 1972 but a 9 person study in Spain showed no ill impacts in 1996, it's Class C"
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167515 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 9:32 am to
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My post was specifically about the messaging from wherever stout posted from.




I think the person was not only alluding to that page but also the data on the 270 pregnant women from the same study

Also, don't ignore the others study showing that there can be as much as a 1500+% increase in miscarriages from the vaccine
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51393 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 9:32 am to
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42,000 had adverse effects


What is an adverse effect?

I had a sore arm for a couple hours. Is that an adverse effect?
Posted by Warfox
B.R. Native (now in MA)
Member since Apr 2017
3157 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 9:34 am to
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The absolute risk reduction of the vaccine is .84% meaning the benefit of the vaccine is less than 1% over somebody not vaccinated



I’m as pro-choice as you can be with respect to vaccine choice, but for me the proof is in the pudding; and the pudding is the Covid unit I work on.

99% of deaths after the vaccine rolled out have been in the unvaccinated. In my clinical experience, an up-to-date boostered individual that is admitted with hypoxia(the main requirement for admission) sees their clinical course cut like a knife and best of all they don’t die. These are all patients 70+ mind you(the higher-risk population).

Get the vaccine or don’t the choice ought to be yours to make, but this is what I see in real life.
Posted by OGtigerfan87
North La
Member since Feb 2019
3419 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 9:35 am to
Yeah I’m gonna file this as misleading at best and probably bull crap for now. Not saying this vaccine is as wonderful as they made it out to be because obviously it is not. And there almost assuredly is at least a small risk of some post vaccine issues. But until this is substantiated by someone legit it reads like political board conspiracy nonsense. I’m also very pro choice on the vaccine and have been against mandates for it and mask since day 1
This post was edited on 5/4/22 at 9:37 am
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