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re: There was a Pfizer data dump of 90,702 pages while people were arguing about RvW

Posted on 5/4/22 at 10:01 am to
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167544 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 10:01 am to
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but I don't understand why you would post those misleading miscarriage numbers to freak out the folks


I posted the data and links of where it came from so people can do their own research. You would have a point if I didn't and asked people to take it as gospel.
Posted by sgallo3
Dorne
Member since Sep 2008
24747 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 10:02 am to
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The original study pushing pregnant women to get vaccinated had more questions than answers for me. The conclusions was the miscarriage rate was the same. What they didn’t tell you was the vast majority of babies that were born were from people who got the vaccine in the third trimester. There was an alarming number of miscarriages for those who received the vaccine in the 1st trimester.

Seeing as 80% of all miscarriages occur in the first trimester you shouldve expected that
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85169 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 10:02 am to
The quotes don’t have a link. I even tried googling (DuckDuckGo) them directly. Are they just words from the lady who was on Bannon?
This post was edited on 5/4/22 at 10:03 am
Posted by Earnest_P
Member since Aug 2021
3561 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 10:02 am to
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Some of you get twisted like a pretzel to discount even the slightest negative info on the vaccine including that directly from the manufacturer


They also seem confused. They seem to be coming at it with the idea that we have to prove the vaccine is dangerous, when clearly the onus is on anyone who would mandate its use to prove its safety.

Everyone now wants to act as if it doesn’t matter because it was in the end not as broadly mandated as feared, but we were a hair’s breadth away from a very broad mandate.
Where were the korkstands of the world then? No doubt being hypercritical of anyone and anything that questioned the vaccine.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
67051 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 10:03 am to
Safe. Effective. Available.

well, 1 for 3 ain’t bad!
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
54960 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 10:04 am to
So, initially the potato and his woman were right when they said there was no way in hell they'd take Trump's "rushed vaccine"? You know......originally they said that. Then, when it became politically expedient they reversed course and the vaccine was the savior we had all been waiting for.

Our health and wellbeing became a political weapon that was wielded by everyone in charge. Neither "side" looks good in this. Remember that, they've all now been proven to be various degrees of evil.
This post was edited on 5/4/22 at 10:21 am
Posted by ruzil
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2012
16958 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 10:05 am to
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because obviously some of those probably died of actual CV19 and not the vaccine

How convenient!
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28730 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 10:05 am to
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The same can be said for both sides.
Oh sure, everyone pushes their agenda. I'm just saying that one side is here pushing with numbers that are mathematically impossible.
Posted by stout
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Member since Sep 2006
167544 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 10:05 am to
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They seem to be coming at it with the idea that we have to prove the vaccine is dangerous, when clearly the onus is on anyone who would mandate its use to prove its safety.


This was always my stance yet I am labeled as an anti-vaccine loon here.

I have said numerous times that I was always waiting for more data to come out before deciding if I would take the vaccine because, as you said, it was on them to prove it was safe.

As more data came out it did push me further away from the vaccine being an option for me.

And we still have no idea of the long-term effects.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
51839 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 10:05 am to
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Mark my words, this is Thalidomide 2.0


And those of us who brought up Thalidomide were shouted down.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
65974 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 10:06 am to

Thanks a lot, Donald.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28730 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 10:08 am to
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This was always my stance yet I am labeled as an anti-vaccine loon here.
I think you're just generally a loon.
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I have said numerous times that I was always waiting for more data to come out before deciding if I would take the vaccine because, as you said, it was on them to prove it was safe.

As more data came out it did push me further away from the vaccine being an option for me.
I can see why that might happen because you tend to believe wildly inaccurate negative interpretations of data.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85169 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 10:08 am to
So the quotes and images are from a Twitter thread. Can you link that please?
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167544 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 10:11 am to
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I think you're just generally a loon.


Fair enough but that's because you don't agree with me politically either and I have called you out for BS over the years.

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because you tend to believe wildly inaccurate negative interpretations of data.



Let me fix that for you. It's because I don't trust authority and am naturally suspicious
Posted by Monday
Prairieville
Member since Mar 2013
5008 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 10:12 am to
Pretty funny how we are getting stuck on math when these are maybe more important statements to discuss.
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The vaccine was not 95% effective, Pfizer data shows it has a 12% efficacy rate

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Pfizer knew their 100mg dose destroyed recipients white blood cells. This could be why the vaccinated keep getting Covid or other illnesses and why some people have "Long Covid"
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The absolute risk reduction of the vaccine is .84% meaning the benefit of the vaccine is less than 1% over somebody not vaccinated

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Out of 46,000 participants in the Pfizer trial study , 42,000 had adverse effects and 1200 died
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
3733 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 10:12 am to
This post was edited on 5/4/22 at 10:13 am
Posted by Bourbonball5012
Member since Oct 2021
109 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 10:13 am to
You should probably blame Trump then….
Posted by Monday
Prairieville
Member since Mar 2013
5008 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 10:15 am to
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Let me fix that for you. It's because I don't trust authority and am naturally suspicious

I feel the same way. It's hard for me to take the side who has a serious incentive for the pandemic to continue. Would I like to continue to make billions with no liability if I had the choice?
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167544 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 10:16 am to
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Pretty funny how we are getting stuck on math when these are maybe more important statements to discuss.



That's how it goes here usually. People think by potentially discrediting a few things I post that they have somehow discredited it all and declare themselves virtuous victors.

Maybe I shouldn't have linked the VAERS study in my OP and I even knew beforehand they would use that to discredit the entire OP.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28730 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 10:16 am to
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Fair enough but that's because you don't agree with me politically either and I have called you out for BS over the years.
It's moreso because you're a loon.
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Let me fix that for you. It's because I don't trust authority and am naturally suspicious
You're a loon not because you're naturally suspicious of authority, but because your natural suspicion doesn't apply to obviously false information.
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