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re: There was a Pfizer data dump of 90,702 pages while people were arguing about RvW

Posted on 5/4/22 at 9:46 am to
Posted by Sisyphus
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 5/4/22 at 9:46 am to
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I can't find the thread but I do recall it being something along those lines for the release from the LDH for that week. It was over 60%


63%. Been over 50% for a while.

Louisiana Department of Health Dashboard

Posted by stout
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Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 5/4/22 at 9:48 am to
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This study had 31 miscarriages out of 270 pregnancies. That is pretty close to 10 percent.

They are saying there were 31 miscarriages out of 32 pregnancies to get their 1500%, but in reality the 238 other pregnancies were still ongoing as normal so had no feedback.




No. It is a different study I linked but I know it will be discounted by some of you because they are using VAERS data

LINK
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72216 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 9:48 am to
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but in reality the 238 other pregnancies were still ongoing as normal so had no feedback.
Possibly true, but an assumption.

They had no feedback.

Which is why they had to disregard them from the data.

It makes that portion very unreliable.

ETA: You may be talking about a different study.

I’m getting confused as to which one we are talking about.
This post was edited on 5/4/22 at 9:51 am
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28730 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 9:48 am to
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Perhaps I worded that incorrectly
Not only that, but the math behind it is fricky.
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A study of data found in the USA’s Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting system has revealed that per number of doses administered the Covid-19 injections are at least 16 times / 1,517% more likely to cause a pregnant woman to suffer a miscarriage than the Flu jab.
Did you read their methodology here? From the outset it's based on voluntarily reported data, and it is well known that people did that far more for covid vaccines than they ever did for flu vaccines. But instead of correcting for that, they ignored it and did some wacky corrections the other way to inflate the numbers for covid vax.

Posted by Gings5
HTX
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 5/4/22 at 9:49 am to
This is horrific. Nice breakdown of the key points.
Posted by 3rdPart Tiger
Member since Oct 2007
6270 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 9:49 am to
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By whom? Facebook fact checkers? Show me



Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167544 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 9:49 am to
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63%. Been over 50% for a while.

Louisiana Department of Health Dashboard



Thank you but I was told by OGtigerfan87 that I made that up
Posted by stout
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Member since Sep 2006
167544 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 9:52 am to
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ETA: You may be talking about a different study.

I’m getting confused as to which one we are talking about.


I was talking about a different study and he assumed I meant the data from the Pfizer dump.

That doesn't make what you said any less relevant.
Posted by KLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
10328 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 9:52 am to
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63%. Been over 50% for a while.


Looks like they stopped updating these stats the week of 4/16-4/20

I wonder why?
This post was edited on 5/4/22 at 9:54 am
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
22393 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 9:53 am to
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super anti-vax


In general or just as it pertains to Covid? There is a difference.
This post was edited on 5/4/22 at 9:53 am
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28730 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 9:54 am to
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Well, I linked it all for everyone to read and included some pages in my OP. I am not saying I agree with some interpretations of it so I am not "lapping it up" but when the data is there it is sort of hard to ignore.
You quoted text which is an obvious misinterpretation of the data. It makes the claim that the data is from a trial but it's obviously not. And all the other shite is similarly twisted to arrive at big numbers that simple minds find hard to ignore.
Posted by LSUfanNkaty
LC, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
11131 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 9:54 am to
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3rdPart Tiger



This post was edited on 5/4/22 at 10:01 am
Posted by auwaterfowler
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
1980 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 9:55 am to
“They vaxxed 270 pregnant women.

There is no feedback on 238, but of the other 32 there was only one live birth.”

So, the Liberals have a perfect scenario!!! They can get vaxxed and get an abortion at the same time!!!
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167544 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 9:55 am to
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You quoted text which is an obvious misinterpretation of the data. It makes the claim that the data is from a trial but it's obviously not. And all the other shite is similarly twisted to arrive at big numbers that simple minds find hard to ignore.



The same can be said for both sides. Some of you get twisted like a pretzel to discount even the slightest negative info on the vaccine including that directly from the manufacturer that is now asking to vaccinate your 5-year-old so they can keep the revenue coming.
This post was edited on 5/4/22 at 9:56 am
Posted by stout
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Member since Sep 2006
167544 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 9:56 am to
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So, the Liberals have a perfect scenario!!! They can get vaxxed and get an abortion at the same time!!!





Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6498 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 9:56 am to
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I’m getting confused as to which one we are talking about.



I think thats important for the fear propaganda. a lot of these are different data points coming out at different points in time.

stout still trying to claim that miscarriages are increased like 1500% which is just absolutely bonkers. people with no data interpretation skills are doing gymnastics with the data and it shows.
This post was edited on 5/4/22 at 9:58 am
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
22393 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 9:57 am to
The original study pushing pregnant women to get vaccinated had more questions than answers for me. The conclusions was the miscarriage rate was the same. What they didn’t tell you was the vast majority of babies that were born were from people who got the vaccine in the third trimester. There was an alarming number of miscarriages for those who received the vaccine in the 1st trimester.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
12666 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 9:59 am to
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No. It is a different study I linked but I know it will be discounted by some of you because they are using VAERS data

a "study" of VAERS data.
Posted by sgallo3
Dorne
Member since Sep 2008
24747 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 9:59 am to
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The same can be said for both sides. Some of you get twisted like a pretzel to discount even the slightest negative info on the vaccine including that directly from the manufacturer that is now asking to vaccinate your 5-year-old so they can keep the revenue coming.

Yeah. I'll never get the vaccine and I'm pretty sure I'm not up to date on my tetanus shot, but I don't understand why you would post those misleading miscarriage numbers to freak out the folks on here that will only read the headline and dig no deeper. Most here don't need fake outrage to not get a vax they don't need for a virus that has been going around forever. If people were gonna get the vax they already would have 99% of the time
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167544 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 9:59 am to
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What they didn’t tell you was the vast majority of babies that were born were from people who got the vaccine in the third trimester. There was an alarming number of miscarriages for those who received the vaccine in the 1st trimester.


Do you have a link for this? I would like to include it ITT.
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