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re: The Spanish were wrecking shop in the New World...then they met the Comanche

Posted on 8/5/21 at 10:32 am to
Posted by tgrfan87
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Posted on 8/5/21 at 10:32 am to
Reading that book now.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 8/5/21 at 10:32 am to
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The Mongol hordes of the 13 and 14th centuries would’ve laid absolute waste to them


From massive numbers, not ability.

The mongols had damn good abilities
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 8/5/21 at 10:37 am to
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LOOK HERE, MARTIN! SHE'S NOT CYNTHIA ANYMORE! SHE'S COMANCH!

She was. After not 7 but 24 years of living with them, she never re-adjusted to her old life and starved herself to death after her daughter died.
Posted by AUin02
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 8/5/21 at 10:55 am to
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Colt's 1851 "navy" revolver cylinder is roll marked with a scene of the Texian Navy fighting the Mexican navy at the battle of Campeche


I've got a repro of this revolver,.44 black powder. Beautiful piece despite being somewhat neglected by its prior owner.
Posted by When in Rome
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Posted on 8/5/21 at 10:58 am to
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The Comanche didn’t play. If you ever want to read a good book on them, check out Empire of the Summer Moon by S. C. Gwynne.
I’ve been meaning to read this book. Just ordered
Posted by Nawlens Gator
louisiana
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Posted on 8/5/21 at 11:15 am to


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Empire of the Summer Moon


Great read. Loaned it to my neighbor to read.

Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
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Posted on 8/5/21 at 11:33 am to
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The Spanish weren't in new Mexican. They were stopped by Mayan tribes deep on south America


What history book did YOU read?
Posted by MyNameIsNobody
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Posted on 8/5/21 at 11:49 am to
Posted by Penrod
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Posted on 8/5/21 at 11:51 am to
That’s revisionist history. The people of Mexico speak Spanish not Comanche. In fact no one speaks Comanche because the Europeans wiped them out…easily!
Posted by lsu1919
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 8/5/21 at 11:54 am to
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The Spanish weren't in new Mexican. They were stopped by Mayan tribes deep on south America


At one point they controlled most of South America, all of Mexico, half the u.s. and some of Canada.

In American movies and books, the Spanish empire is usually relegated to a foil to English or American hero's but their influence is all over this continent.
Posted by Penrod
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Posted on 8/5/21 at 11:58 am to
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Were Comanche the ones who rode the side of horses to remain hidden? If so, what bad arse ingenuity!

Really ingenuous! But not as ingenuous as the Apache. I heard tell that, in a shooting war, they would shield themselves by hiding behind rocks and trees. Amazing! These Indians were smart!
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 8/5/21 at 12:04 pm to
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The Spanish weren't in new Mexican. They were stopped by Mayan tribes deep on south America



So who da frick built this in Sante Fe 3 years after Jamestown was founded?

Posted by tigerbadbob
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Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 8/5/21 at 12:04 pm to
For decades the Comanche stopped Gringo western movement at the treeline in eastern Texas. Cynthia Ann Parkers family lived on the edge that resulted in the raid that she and other family members were kidnapped, The Comanche also pushed the apache out of Texas, their long time home. They were truly the "Lords of the Plains".
Posted by LeGrosChat
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Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 8/5/21 at 12:07 pm to
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The mongols had damn good abilities


The Mongols were know to wrap enemy leaders in blankets and stampede horses over them or shove stones down their throat to choke'em.

The Comanche's liked to skin the soles off captive American settlers, then set fire to the praire and have the captives run over the burning prairie to be eventually shot full of arrows. Or, tie'em down on their backs, prop open the eyes with sticks so the sun burned them blind and then eventually eaten alive by coyotes, etc.
This post was edited on 8/5/21 at 12:38 pm
Posted by SWCBonfire
South Texas
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 8/5/21 at 12:07 pm to
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Really ingenuous! But not as ingenuous as the Apache. I heard tell that, in a shooting war, they would shield themselves by hiding behind rocks and trees. Amazing! These Indians were smart!


Comanches could shoot arrows accurately from under the necks of their horses at a full gallop. I don't care who you are, that's impressive.
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 8/5/21 at 12:09 pm to
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For decades the Comanche stopped Gringo western movement at the treeline in eastern Texas. Cynthia Ann Parkers family lived on the edge that resulted in the raid that she and other family members were kidnapped, The Comanche also pushed the apache out of Texas, their long time home. They were truly the "Lords of the Plains".




This is fresh on my noggin having just listened to Empire of the Summer Moon and Killing Crazy Horse in the last month. Good audio books make a long commute so much more bearable and you can really absorb the material while driving. Much of these books' content overlap and one things for sure.

You ain't lyin. Comanche were the baddest of the bad.

Oh and the Rangers did adopt Comanche tactics and riding skills and improved on them. But as some have mentioned, the repeating rifle ABSOLUTELY played the biggest role in the tides turning in the United States' favor in a much shorter time than it would have otherwise.

Funny sidenote, Custer had these rifles available to him but declined to use them. Had he had these rifles, he may not be nearly as famous as he is.
Little history.net article on what if Custer had chosen to equip his men with repeating rifles.

This post was edited on 8/5/21 at 12:19 pm
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 8/5/21 at 12:16 pm to
The picture in the first photo is probably from New Mexico. That's the only place you've got broad flat treeless plains with minor volcanoes in the background.

Where there's more moisture, the small hills are more mesas and buttes.

An advantage to the natives of an area: they knew where the water was and they also knew where the canyons were and how to subtly get to the other side.
Posted by Confederate Class
Member since Aug 2021
52 posts
Posted on 8/5/21 at 12:16 pm to
“Lakota obliterated the 7th Calvary”


Custer had it coming
Posted by Saskwatch
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Posted on 8/5/21 at 12:18 pm to
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So who da frick built this in Sante Fe 3 years after Jamestown was founded?


Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
66402 posts
Posted on 8/5/21 at 12:22 pm to
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he took on as many women as he wanted.



but, why?
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