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re: The Spanish were wrecking shop in the New World...then they met the Comanche
Posted on 8/4/21 at 9:02 pm to SWCBonfire
Posted on 8/4/21 at 9:02 pm to SWCBonfire
quote:And probably skinned alive in front of her relatives, just for shiggles
Every woman ever abducted by Comanches was brutally raped at a minimum.
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Posted on 8/4/21 at 9:02 pm to weagle99
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Some of you in Texas have heard of a ‘Comanche Moon’? It was when they would raid and wipe people out.
I’ll have you know that Native Americans were peaceful people who lived in community with nature.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 9:08 pm to SWCBonfire
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Every woman ever abducted by Comanches was brutally raped at a minimum.
They weren't very hospitable to young white male children either.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 9:10 pm to SWCBonfire
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Every woman ever abducted by Comanches was brutally raped at a minimum.
One of my great grandmas hated Indians - she used to say when she was little they’d circle their house and stuff - her dad would go talk to them and they’d leave - but he was a circuit preacher so sometimes he’d leave the wife & kids by themselves- and the Indians would come back and circle just to scare them
Ironically one of my other great grandmas was part Indian
Posted on 8/4/21 at 9:15 pm to tadman
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His books were amazing and pretty much ruined lesser novels for me. I once tried to read a Clancy novel and found it utterly juvenile
I like Clancy if you take out the torque specs on the #3 bulkhead on a 1973 model nuclear submarine.
Like. I get it dude, you know this stuff but shite, leave that part out.
Sorry. /BookBoard
Posted on 8/4/21 at 9:16 pm to brsa
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buffalo hump stole cpt skulls' horse.
crazy sumbitch went to get it back
That was Kicking Wolf who stole the "Buffalo Horse" and took it to Ahumado. Buffalo Hump was the baddest Comanche in the Lonesome Dove series though. Empire of the Summer Moon was terrific. I have been on a Comanche/Old West kick lately. Also read Blood Meridian. Comanche fought in such a style to overwhelm by speed then tortured the survivors so ruthlessly to dissuade any further encroachment or challenge. Their culture was interesting. Every day on the plains was a challenge for survival.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 9:17 pm to Roaad
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Almost everyone Houston led were US military men
It wasn't officially the US military. . .but it was totally the US military
Some were, many weren't - just landowners trying to hold onto what they have or someone running from somewhere ahead of the law. Some were deserters, some were outlaws. Your average Tennessean farmer or planter's son from Mississippi was far more effective than someone from the east coast.
I had family who were former military/cavalry and fought in the Texian army, but they were Prussians who emigrated directly to Texas.
I'll also add that they weren't us military in that the Rangers were nominally effective at combating the Comanche, whereas the US military was hopelessly too rigid and unadaptable to be effective until the odds were in their favor.
This post was edited on 8/4/21 at 9:27 pm
Posted on 8/4/21 at 9:23 pm to Saskwatch
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buffalo hump stole cpt skulls' horse
Rumors that the ivy league grouo Skull and Bones (of which GWB was a member) has Geronimo’s skull.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 9:30 pm to zippyputt
the Rangers for sure but only after Sam Colt provided the six shooter
Posted on 8/4/21 at 9:47 pm to Champagne
quote:I'm a direct descendant from the real girl they captured. Her name was Cynthia Parker. And yes, obviously, I'm related to her son as well.
The Comanche kidnapped Natalie Wood and made her give up the poon. John Wayne wanted to kill her for that.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 9:52 pm to tigerbadbob
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the Rangers for sure but only after Sam Colt provided the six shooter
Sam Walker designed the Walker Colt.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 9:57 pm to SWCBonfire
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I'll also add that they weren't us military in that the Rangers were nominally effective at combating the Comanche, whereas the US military was hopelessly too rigid and unadaptable to be effective until the odds were in their favor.
The US military still followed the strategy of forming lines and advancing. The Comanches and Apaches used guerilla warfare tactics, not front line tactics. When the US adopted those tactics, with superior numbers, that's when the game changed.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 9:58 pm to 81Tiger
I’d hate to fight ole baw on right
Posted on 8/4/21 at 9:59 pm to weagle99
North Americas Mongols!
Posted on 8/4/21 at 10:02 pm to weagle99
Good thread, I love reading about Comanches. The description of them in the book Blood Meridian is some of the creepiest stuff imaginable, they would wear necklaces with severed ears on them as charms. They were nuts but they are up there with some of the best warriors of all time. An exerpt about them from said book
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"A legion of horribles, hundreds in number, half naked or clad in costumes attic or biblical or wardrobed out of a fevered dream with the skins of animals and silk finery and pieces of uniform still tracked with the blood of prior owners, coats of slain dragoons, frogged and braided cavalry jackets, one in a stovepipe hat and one with an umbrella and one in white stockings and a bloodstained wedding veil and some in headgear or cranefeathers or rawhide helmets that bore the horns of bull or buffalo and one in a pigeontailed coat worn backwards and otherwise naked and one in the armor of a Spanish conquistador, the breastplate and pauldrons deeply dented with old blows of mace or sabre done in another country by men whose very bones were dust and many with their braids spliced up with the hair of other beasts until they trailed upon the ground and their horses' ears and tails worked with bits of brightly colored cloth and one whose horse's whole head was painted crimson red and all the horsemen's faces gaudy and grotesque with daubings like a company of mounted clowns, death hilarious, all howling in a barbarous tongue and riding down upon them like a horde from a hell more horrible yet than the brimstone land of Christian reckoning"
This post was edited on 8/4/21 at 10:26 pm
Posted on 8/4/21 at 10:06 pm to weagle99
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A Comanche brave was probably the freest type of person to ever live in North America. He didn’t answer to a leader, he had countless acres to roam, and he took as many women as he wanted.
I was with you right up until you got to the part where you fantasized about raping women
Posted on 8/4/21 at 10:07 pm to AgCoug
Reading that book currently. Almost half-way through. It’s a great read.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 10:07 pm to weagle99
The Comanches were the only tribe to expand their range after European contact. They raided as far south of Yucatan. They burned Austin Texas. During the Civil War they rolled the frontier back an average of 100 miles. Texans and Comanches hated each other and neither side had clean hands.
There's a band of Apache Indians in and around what is now Zwolle. They sought refuge with the Spanish colonial authorities from Comanche depredations and that's where they settled.
Everybody knows Custer, but nobody's heard of Ranald McKenzie. The same year Custer lost his scalp, McKenzie defeated the Comanches at Palo Duro Canyon and forced them to sue for peace .
There's a band of Apache Indians in and around what is now Zwolle. They sought refuge with the Spanish colonial authorities from Comanche depredations and that's where they settled.
Everybody knows Custer, but nobody's heard of Ranald McKenzie. The same year Custer lost his scalp, McKenzie defeated the Comanches at Palo Duro Canyon and forced them to sue for peace .
Posted on 8/4/21 at 10:08 pm to TigerintheNO
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The Lakota obliterated the 7th Calvary
George Armstrong Custer’s blind ambition and arrogance obliterated the 7th Calvary.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 10:16 pm to Jim Rockford
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The same year Custer lost his scalp
You sure about that?
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