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re: The Spanish were wrecking shop in the New World...then they met the Comanche
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:04 pm to weagle99
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:04 pm to weagle99
It's kind of crazy how quickly they adapted and became arguably the best horseback warriors in the world.
The other Native American tribes were like "yeah, go over there where the Comanches are. You'll be fine" lol.
The other Native American tribes were like "yeah, go over there where the Comanches are. You'll be fine" lol.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:06 pm to zippyputt
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Until the Rangers shut them down and wiped them out with their own tactics.
Didn't it take innovations in guns to beat the Comanches?
This post was edited on 8/4/21 at 8:08 pm
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:07 pm to weagle99
buffalo hump stole cpt skulls' horse.
crazy sumbitch went to get it back
must read
crazy sumbitch went to get it back
must read
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:11 pm to weagle99
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The Spanish were wrecking shop in the New World...then they lost a war with Napoleon.
FIFY.
Spain had all sorts of trouble in the early 1800’s. Napoleon overthrowing the monarchy. Civil War. Simon Bolivar liberating South America.
Spain had a happy, murderous run for three centuries in the West. By 1800, this semisphere, Comanches included, had enough of their mierda.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:12 pm to AgCoug
second to comanche moon.
sad what happened to the natives.
sad what happened to the natives.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:13 pm to BeepNode
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It's kind of crazy how quickly they adapted and became arguably the best horseback warriors in the world.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:16 pm to BeepNode
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Didn't it take innovations in guns to beat the Comanches?
Yes, Texas Rangers were originally land surveyors (turns out it was a very deadly job in Comanche country). They realized really quickly that they needed an adapted weapon to compete with the bowsmanship and horsemanship of the Comanche braves.
Someone else mentioned the SC Gwynne book, which is fantastic, great first hand accounts of some of the norms of fair play in the wild west.
Gwynne makes a great point that Mexico wanted to induce American & Euro immigrants into Texas to act as a human buffer against the Comanche.
If you ever get a chance to see the Palo Duro Canyon near Amarillo, do it. Spiritual “home” of the Comanche.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:18 pm to brsa
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sad what happened to the natives.
In general, true. But the Comanches were true savages.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:21 pm to BeepNode
That played into it somewhat, but Rangers figured out their battle tactics and eventually overwhelmed them. Comanches were pretty fierce fighters especially on horse. Hanging underneath by the neck and shooting very accurately. Almost like fighting in Afghanistan, the territory knowledge was very advantageous, with most of the warring tribes.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:23 pm to VirgilCaine
Pablo Duro was the last stand of the Comanche too. Pretty much the last great battle they fought.
Apache Wars book is great reading too, different groups, but very detailed on the South Texas/ARizona, New Mexico wars.
Apache Wars book is great reading too, different groups, but very detailed on the South Texas/ARizona, New Mexico wars.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:26 pm to weagle99
Nothing a bottle of corn liquor and some contaminated blankets couldn’t handle.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:27 pm to BeepNode
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Until the Rangers shut them down and wiped them out with their own tactics.
Didn't it take innovations in guns to beat the Comanches?
It was more of a story of 1) American settlers allying with other nearby tribes that absolutely hated their guts (Arapaho, Cheyenne, Apache, Kiowa, Wichita, etc.) and 2) sheer demography (and disease) and how outnumbered they were by the 1850's and 1860's.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:28 pm to Rossberg02
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We’re Comanche the ones who rode the side of horses to remain hidden? If so, what bad arse ingenuity!
Not really. I would've just shot the horse and then the Comanche if he could get out from under the dead horse.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:28 pm to BeepNode
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It's kind of crazy how quickly they adapted and became arguably the best horseback warriors in the world.
It had to be like encountering a UFO the first time they saw the Spanish galloping over the Texas hill country. Now imagine walking everywhere you’ve ever been and carrying everything you’ll ever know on your person. Gotta remember these people had never seen a wheel, let alone a horse. But, they would have made some great Marines, you wanna talk about adapting & overcoming on the fly..
This post was edited on 8/4/21 at 8:32 pm
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:29 pm to tigerinthebueche
Seems like all the movies, etc… portrayed the Native American as fit, handsome, with pretty women. Every actual picture of native Americans show them as tremendously unattractive
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:30 pm to weagle99
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Comanche
Ten Bears was a bad mofo
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:31 pm to weagle99
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The Spanish were wrecking shop in the New World...then they met the Comanche
Somebody read a book
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:31 pm to weagle99
-Comanche fricked the Messicans up
-Messicans wanted Americans to help
-Messicans decide to trick Americans
-Messicans gave Americans land rights in Tejas
-Messicans hoped Comanches would attack Americans, forcing US military to get involved
-Comanches attacked Americans
-US military fuuuuuuuuucked the Comanche up
-Messicans decided they wanted Tejas back, since no Comanches
-Messicans withdrew Murican property rights
-Alamo
-San Jacinto River
-Santa Anna ran like a beeyotch
-Messicans lose Tejas outright
Remember this when Messicans say we stole Tejas from them.
Yer welcome
-Messicans wanted Americans to help
-Messicans decide to trick Americans
-Messicans gave Americans land rights in Tejas
-Messicans hoped Comanches would attack Americans, forcing US military to get involved
-Comanches attacked Americans
-US military fuuuuuuuuucked the Comanche up
-Messicans decided they wanted Tejas back, since no Comanches
-Messicans withdrew Murican property rights
-Alamo
-San Jacinto River
-Santa Anna ran like a beeyotch
-Messicans lose Tejas outright
Remember this when Messicans say we stole Tejas from them.
Yer welcome
This post was edited on 8/4/21 at 8:34 pm
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:32 pm to weagle99
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Now you know why Canadians don’t hablan Espanol.
But plenty speak French
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:34 pm to TigerintheNO
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The Lakota obliterated the 7th Calvary
That’s pretty much what always happens when one side outnumbers the other by better than 3 to 1
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