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re: The Science of Psychology has really created a screwed up world.

Posted on 9/4/26 at 9:43 pm to
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 9/4/26 at 9:43 pm to
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psychology tries to help/make sense of it


I think his point and your point are two different arguments. Society wants to know why people act the way they do, so that we can see warning signs and help people BEFORE they do something wrong or hurt somebody.

But at some point there has to be consequences for a persons actions, regardless of what caused them.







Posted by BK Lounge
Member since 1978
Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:06 pm to
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Scientologists agree with you




Well, kinda... $cientologists always argue that 'psychiatry' is a pseudoscience.. this thread is about psychology... Still, you are not wrong .
Posted by SaintlyTiger88
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2013
2232 posts
Posted on 9/4/26 at 10:55 pm to
Exactly. Whatever happened to Gary Cooper?
Posted by Jimbojambojumbo
Member since Mar 2022
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Posted on 9/5/26 at 12:07 am to
Posted by Tiger in the Sticks
Back in the Boot
Member since Jan 2007
2020 posts
Posted on 9/5/26 at 12:40 am to
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ignores the soul.


I’ve had traditional therapy but benefited most from Christian therapy. The therapist was great about including faith, although he said it could include as much or as little as I preferred.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
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Posted on 9/5/26 at 7:33 am to
"Science"
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 9/5/26 at 7:41 am to
quote:

I think his point and your point are two different arguments. Society wants to know why people act the way they do, so that we can see warning signs and help people BEFORE they do something wrong or hurt somebody.

But at some point there has to be consequences for a persons actions, regardless of what caused them.


Well stated!

In my first psych class the professor stressed that there's "no such thing as 'insane' because the thoughts and actions of the person in the moment seem sane to them." That's a "why do they do this" answer.

The problem comes from those who take that stance as a foundation to excuse poor behavior by lessening or removing consequences. The internet has poured fuel on that with its ability to broadcast "social contagion" to an almost instant global level.
Posted by Sams Crow
Idaho
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Posted on 9/5/26 at 12:29 pm to
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Whatever happened to Gary Cooper?


-Tony Soprano
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
22362 posts
Posted on 9/5/26 at 12:37 pm to
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Yet the first thing the Doctor of Medicine wants to know about you is your genetic history. What have we done to ourselves?

What do genetics have to do with psychology? Genetics have more to do with biology.
Posted by High C
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 9/5/26 at 1:11 pm to
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What do genetics have to do with psychology?


You’re kidding, right?
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
77320 posts
Posted on 9/5/26 at 1:42 pm to
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Seems like the more and more we have pushed that people have something wrong with them, the more people think they have something wrong with them. And then take drugs to fix it


That’s the Medical/Pharmaceutical industry in a nutshell. Create the drug or condition and then monetize it. All of our postmodern systems be it politics, finance, religion, culture, medicine are absolute bullshite.
Posted by Hobie101
Member since May 2012
1264 posts
Posted on 9/5/26 at 1:47 pm to
We’ve had insane asylums for a long time.
Mental health has always been an issue.
Access to it should be a priority, as well as recognizing when someone cannot be accountable and needs to be committed.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 9/5/26 at 1:52 pm to
The biggest lunatics always seem to end up in the psychiatric field
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
21455 posts
Posted on 9/5/26 at 2:11 pm to
Big scam going. Give them drugs and talk to a therapist that has their own “mental health issues”.
Spiritual void causes 95% of mental illlness
Medical and pharmaceutical industries conning the public again.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
42060 posts
Posted on 9/5/26 at 2:13 pm to
The entire mental health industry is a complete sham.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
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Posted on 9/5/26 at 2:44 pm to
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How was it before Jung and Freud?
I stayed at one of their hotels in NOLA.

Damn, kinda makes you think.

Coulda been me.

Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
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Posted on 9/5/26 at 2:45 pm to
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What do genetics have to do with psychology? Genetics have more to do with biology.


It was foretold long ago in ancient script, the inequities of the mothers and fathers would be passed down to the sons and daughters.

Think about how much money has been made by the "doctors" since almost all people do not really give a damn who they "breed" with.
Posted by smokeswithwolves
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
2165 posts
Posted on 9/5/26 at 2:53 pm to
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More emotionalism, more self-absorption, etc. Drama became more and more defined by this. It really seeped into the culture, and I frankly think it's led to a lot of the weird problems we've seen, going back to the "Me Generation" mentality up to present day craziness.


Culture seeped into culture? Your analysis is fine but the diagnosis is tautological.

Culture is a symptom, not a cause. The crisis of meaning is downstream from disillusionment with the enlightenment project of all-powerful reason; a product of industrialism, which resulted in the contradiction between the liberal revolutionary values of the 18th century and labor relations, and the world wars which were the ugly fruits of our technological innovations. Communism and fascism are in their own ways catastrophic attempts to deal with this failure of reason.

There is also a lot of flattening together of psychoanalysis, psychology, psychiatry, and neuroscience in this thread but I can’t get into all that on game day
Posted by forkedintheroad
Member since Feb 2025
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Posted on 9/5/26 at 2:56 pm to
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So, it's not that the world can be screwed up and psychology tries to help/make sense of it...it's that psychology screwed up the world?


Uncertainty principle: whatever psychology studies, it also changes.
Posted by chryso
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
14110 posts
Posted on 9/5/26 at 3:02 pm to
Jung and Freud just gave names to the conditions. They didn't protect anybody.
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