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re: The Keto diet can’t possibly be good for you

Posted on 2/14/20 at 2:57 pm to
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63805 posts
Posted on 2/14/20 at 2:57 pm to
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I’m not going to get into a pissing match with someone about why a sweet potato is good for you.


Why not? I'd like to hear it.

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As for the cookie. Enjoy a cookie. A cookie can be delicious. Just don’t eat a sleeve of Oreos and wonder why you’re fat.



Meh. I eat very few sweets. I'm probably about 80%-85% carnivore.
Posted by auzach91
Marietta, GA
Member since Jan 2009
41362 posts
Posted on 2/14/20 at 2:58 pm to
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I may be stupid but I don’t get it.


No, you ARE stupid. Its pretty easy to understand. Your body feeds off carbs. Take carbs away and its forced to live off something else, fat.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 2/14/20 at 2:58 pm to
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What makes it "good"?


Sweet potatoes aren't really good for you, but they're a little better for you than a regular potato. Sweet potatoes have more fiber in them, which reduces the net carbs in them and helps slow down their digestion. They also have a lot of Vitamin A.

Posted by Harry Caray
Denial
Member since Aug 2009
21045 posts
Posted on 2/14/20 at 2:59 pm to
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yeah reducing carbs (without going extreme keto either in trying to get ketosis or eating a pound of butter and bacon a day) is just good advice for the vast majority of people. the reason why is satiation. you will eat fewer calories overall if you satiate yourself properly while eating. carbs are utterly terrible in terms of calories used to satiate yourself (and many carby snacks have 0 satiation and insane calories)

Yeah exactly, there would be several days where I could eat a dozen almonds and have a couple cups of coffee with cream for breakfast and not get hungry again until dinner. I generally felt "full" for much longer, so in addition to being fat-adapted you end up eating less from simply not desiring to eat as often.

Also, as someone who did it for awhile, the ones eating butter and shite for fun will not last long. Eat your goddamn vegetables you monsters
Posted by Slagathor
Makin' jokes about your teeny tiny
Member since Jul 2007
38984 posts
Posted on 2/14/20 at 2:59 pm to
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plain butter off a knife
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pork rinds in cream cheese
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Parmesan crisps in queso


following for more delicious recipes
Posted by BeachDude022
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Posted on 2/14/20 at 2:59 pm to
Posted by Junky
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2005
9230 posts
Posted on 2/14/20 at 3:00 pm to
You are going to fall out of your chair when you learn there are folks out there only eating meat, and nothing else, for decades, and thriving.

All keto really does is remove the completely shitty "fad" diets we've been eating for only the last ~70 years. Ketosis is a completely natural ability of the human body to thrive when food intake is low, and we are able to maintain when blood glucose levels are low.

As to the comment "people just gain it all back when they get off the diet" Well no shite, their body cannot handle the carbohydrate intake. Of course they put the weight back on. If you're a type II diabetic, you'd be doing yourself a favor to look into keto to reduce the need to take insulin...sometimes even removing the need. You don't reverse the disease, it isn't a disease, its a condition of the body's inability to tolerate different foods.



Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37614 posts
Posted on 2/14/20 at 3:00 pm to
Keto, Atkins, South Beach all work, for a while.
Posted by ClampClampington
Nebraska
Member since Jun 2017
4047 posts
Posted on 2/14/20 at 3:00 pm to
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2 weeks ago


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best results I've ever seen in my life


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2 weeks ago.


You sure you don’t got worms?
Posted by TnMountaineer
Minglewood
Member since Aug 2018
3490 posts
Posted on 2/14/20 at 3:00 pm to
I eat sweet or white potatoes daily and yet here I am..healthy, active, and not fat. Many others out there so the same and can say the same.

fricking root veggies. They’re the devil! Geezus...
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477231 posts
Posted on 2/14/20 at 3:01 pm to
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Also, as someone who did it for awhile, the ones eating butter and shite for fun will not last long. Eat your goddamn vegetables you monsters

yeah i've fallen off the wagon but when i was doing things well i would eat the shite out of my veggies

meat, veg, cheese, nuts, and water. that was all i ate during the week and i'd be much more flexible on the weekends

and the best thing about cutting carbs is it makes you want to eat carbs less. i never really tried to get to ketosis, but if i went 5-7 days minding carbs, it was a lot easier to keep minding carbs. there was a lot of inertia
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38343 posts
Posted on 2/14/20 at 3:01 pm to
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Same. I made the mistake of saying I’m vegan once. Yikes.
I opened one vegan thread, read about 10 posts and hit the:



Posted by TnMountaineer
Minglewood
Member since Aug 2018
3490 posts
Posted on 2/14/20 at 3:03 pm to
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You are going to fall out of your chair when you learn there are folks out there only eating meat, and nothing else, for decades, and thriving.


I’d believe this. I personally feel everyone has a different body type that thrives on different things. While you may thrive on meat some of us do better in carbs and green veggies.

The common denominator though is this..

We typically work out and don’t eat shite junk food
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
83035 posts
Posted on 2/14/20 at 3:08 pm to
I don't do keto and don't particularly think I would like it.

But you do know that the below is not a typical keto meal for anyone with a brain, right?

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pork rinds in cream cheese, and dipping Parmesan crisps in queso

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plain butter off a knife


I hate the weird arse substitutions for shite that doesn't actually make the food any lower in calories as much as anyone, but your average keto-goer isn't eating those anyway. They're eating lean protein, vegetables, healthy fats, etc.
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 2/14/20 at 3:08 pm to
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no, diet without exercise is fine in terms of health.


I would think you would need a narrow definition of "health" for that to be true.

Barbell Medicine

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Physical inactivity is a major health problem worldwide and is the fourth greatest global risk factor for mortality according to the World Health Organization (WHO), behind high blood pressure, tobacco use, and elevated blood sugar (WHO 2009). It predisposes individuals to a wide variety of chronic diseases, including cardio-cerebrovascular disease, metabolic disease, musculoskeletal disorders, frailty, and many others


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Regular participation in physical activity, including resistance training, has well-documented benefits for numerous health outcomes, diseases, and risk of premature death (Kodama 2009 Wescott 2012). For example, taking an additional 2000 steps per day (about 20 minutes of brisk walking) reduces the risk of having a cardiovascular event by 10% and reduces the risk of having elevated blood sugar by 25% (Yates 2014 Ponsonby 2011). With respect to resistance training in particular, there appears to be a 23% reduction in all-cause mortality in individuals who resistance train 2-3 times per week (Dankel 2016), with a “dose-response” relationship between training volume and improvements in health outcomes


Posted by redneck hippie
Oklahoma
Member since Dec 2008
6414 posts
Posted on 2/14/20 at 3:12 pm to
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I've been doing "lazy" keto for 3 years now, off an on


this is me. I'm not religious about it, but basically stay away from breads and pastas.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 2/14/20 at 3:14 pm to
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I personally feel everyone has a different body type that thrives on different things.



Yep. My wife has an auto-immune disorder that affects her gall bladder and liver. She tried keto and it wreacked havoc on her body. She lost some weight, but her liver enzymes were thrown way out of whack and she nearly went into jaundice.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11821 posts
Posted on 2/14/20 at 3:17 pm to
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The Keto diet can’t possibly be good for you


You base your entire view on Keto Diet from information gleaned from a 280 lb guy that has been doing it for a week?
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38343 posts
Posted on 2/14/20 at 3:17 pm to
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If you're a type II diabetic, you'd be doing yourself a favor to look into keto to reduce the need to take insulin...sometimes even removing the need. You don't reverse the disease, it isn't a disease, its a condition of the body's inability to tolerate different foods.
I've heard good things about keto in regards to diabetes. I was diagnosed with type 2 and hypertension years ago and was off meds for both in 53 days on a plant based diet. I think people just react better to different approaches.
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
19271 posts
Posted on 2/14/20 at 3:19 pm to
It’s simple if you eat sugar you either burn it or store it. 99.9 % don’t burn what you eat calories are the biggest myth ever. It’s all about the gasoline/sugar
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