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re: The CDC Lied: The mRNA Wasn’t Meant to “Stay in the Arm”

Posted on 2/11/23 at 9:18 am to
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Posted on 2/11/23 at 9:21 am to
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The CDC Lied: The mRNA Wasn’t Meant to “Stay in the Arm” by stout

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he CDC’s information page on Covid-19 vaccines contains the following bullet points on “How mRNA COVID-19 vaccines work:”

First, mRNA COVID-19 vaccines are given in the upper arm muscle or upper thigh, depending on the age of who is getting vaccinated.

After vaccination, the mRNA will enter the muscle cells. Once inside, they use the cells’ machinery to produce a harmless piece of what is called the spike protein…. After the protein piece is made, our cells break down the mRNA and remove it, leaving the body as waste.

Or, in other words, as we have long been told, “it” – the mRNA – “stays in the arm.” And then, after having instructed the muscle cells to produce the spike, is disposed of.

But look at the below picture from a recent presentation on mRNA vaccination at the European Parliament. The picture was posted on Twitter by Virginie Joron, a French member of the parliament. The speaker is no less an authority than Özlem Türeci, the Chief Medical Officer of BioNTech: the German biotech company that developed what has come to be known to most of the world as the “Pfizer” Covid-19 vaccine.

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Have a closer look at Türeci’s slide, which tells a very different story than that which the CDC has been telling Americans for the last two years.

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Far from “staying in the arm” and entering the muscle cells at the injection site, the injection site is only the point of departure for a journey that is supposed to take the mRNA rather to the lymph nodes. The subtitle of the slide is “Bringing mRNA to the right cells at the right places.” The deltoid is not the right place; the lymph nodes are.

Once in the lymph nodes, a specific sort of cell, the dendritic cells, is supposed to manufacture the spike protein: here colorfully described as the “wanted poster” that will help the immune system to identify the SARS-CoV-2 virus in case of subsequent exposure.

A passage from The Vaccine, the book that Türeci and her husband, BioNTech CEO Ugur Sahin, wrote which journalist Joe Miller, explains why BioNTech’s platform specifically targets the lymph nodes:

What Ugur learnt was that the location to which a vaccine delivers its ‘wanted poster’ really mattered. The reason for this, the couple’s team in Mainz later realised, was that not all dendritic cells … were created equal. The ones that resided in lymph nodes – of which the spleen is the largest – were particularly adept at capturing mRNA and making sure the instructions it carried were acted upon. These kidney-bean shaped organs, found under our armpits, in our groins, and at several other outposts in the body, are the information hubs of the immune system. (p. 98)


Indeed, Sahin and Türeci were so determined to get their mRNA into the lymph nodes that they had an earlier mRNA construct injected directly into the patient’s lymph nodes in the groin (p. 104).

Needless to say, such an approach was not likely to obtain wide acceptance as a vaccine! This is why the couple, as explained in their book, needed to package the mRNA in lipid nanoparticles, in order to ensure that mRNA administered by way of an intramuscular injection would, nonetheless, be widely distributed around the body and thus reach the lymph nodes.

This is to say that the wide biodistribution of the mRNA that came to light after rollout was never a bug. It is a feature of BioNTech’s mRNA technology. Having elicited an immune response by way of injection into the groin, Sahin is even said to have wondered, “How substantial could the immune response be if a vaccine got into all lymphatic tissues around the body, and recruited all the resident DCs [dendritic cells] into action?” (p. 105)

So, why has the CDC been lying about this for the last two years and insisting that the mRNA “stays in the arm?” Well, the obvious answer is that the idea of the mRNA staying at the injection site is reassuring, since otherwise we could fear systemic adverse effects of precisely the sort that have emerged since rollout.




Posted by stout
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Posted on 2/11/23 at 9:25 am to
I am fearful. Fearful for all of you that were lied to and just accept it.

I would be pissed if I took Flinstone vitamins every day because I was told they would keep me from getting sick, spreading illness, it would stay centralized, that the protein would eventually leave my body, etc only to find out all of that was a complete lie. I would be looking to sue the shite out of Fred and Barney not making excuses for them.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
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Posted on 2/11/23 at 9:27 am to
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I’ve been anti vaccine this whole time, but you are right. It has been and still is absolutely consuming some people. I feel like these folks are going to be deep into old age and still telling their great grandkids about this




So, you're one of the "COVID amnesty" proponents? These people are responsible for the illness and death of hundreds of thousands of people, the ruination of many people's lives/livelihood, the trampling of everyone's rights, and the outright theft of tens of billions of dollars to line Big Pharma's (and many government officials') pockets; but we're just supposed to forget about it after a couple of years???
Posted by Jake88
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Posted on 2/11/23 at 9:28 am to
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There was never a way to guarantee it would stay in the arm, dude
I know. In fact studies show that a small amount travels beyond the muscle. Those studies have been around for mRNA vaxes years before covid. But, that does not mean it "wasn't meant" to stay in the arm as your purposefully nefarious thread title suggests.
This post was edited on 2/11/23 at 9:30 am
Posted by Logician
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Posted on 2/11/23 at 9:30 am to
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Should we not all be dead now? The goal posts keep on shifting...
lol the irony is thicc

I remember a time when everyone was shamed into getting the shot if it meant saving the life of one grandma or fatty. You were the biggest piece of shite in the world if you refused. You had blood on your hands if one person died. Now, if everyone isn’t dying, you’re a Karen. An increase in the death rate doesn’t matter anymore. Now we need absolutely everyone dropping dead or else you’re a hysterical conspiracy theorist.

Talk about shifting goal posts.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 2/11/23 at 9:31 am to
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n fact studies show that a small amount travels beyond the muscle. Those studies have been around for mRNA vaxes years before covid. But, that does not mean is "wasn't meant" to stay in the arm



Jesus, dude. Please read what you posted.

You admit that studies prior to the vaccine show there was no way to guarantee it would stay in the arm yet they really meant for it to stay in the arm.
Posted by Logician
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Posted on 2/11/23 at 9:33 am to
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Amazing how this vaccine fear has taking over so many lives.
just got back from the grocery store. About half the people in there are still in masks. 95% of them are black folks. They’ll go to their death beds in a mask, scared for their lives over this Covid fearporn. Amazing indeed.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 2/11/23 at 9:35 am to
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About half the people in there are still in masks. 95% of them are black folks.


Here its native people and 16-30 year old women. Young ladies are pretty easy to scare into action.
Posted by Jake88
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Posted on 2/11/23 at 9:36 am to
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You admit that studies prior to the vaccine show there was no way to guarantee it would stay in the arm yet they really meant for it to stay in the arm
I read what I posted.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
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Posted on 2/11/23 at 9:36 am to
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Should we not all be dead now?


True.

Between the actual illness fear porn and the vax fear porn. We should be post apocalyptic.

I’m fixing to turn 50. I assume based on all this info I have 3 years left. Tops. Going to start eating chicken fried steaks and can anyone teach me how to smoke cigarettes? Might try fentanyl too.

Eat until I am so big I save money on a burial float. Just push my floating corpse out to sea and light my stomach hair on fire. I’ll also start drinking like I am 22 again so I should be fully flammable.
Posted by USMCguy121
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Posted on 2/11/23 at 9:49 am to
everyone in that room is triple vaxed
Posted by dgnx6
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Posted on 2/11/23 at 9:52 am to
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Should we not all be dead now? The goal posts keep on shifting...



I should be dead along with all of the vaccinated because I’m not vaccinated.

Those goalposts? Because that’s the type of shite said by actual doctors and “authority”.
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
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Posted on 2/11/23 at 10:16 am to
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Amazing how this vaccine fear has taking over so many lives.




Well, that's arse backwards. You're scared of the virus and would rather take experimental drugs than face Covid "unprotected". Yet, if I'm not afraid of Covid and don't think I need experimental drugs to protect me, I'm the scared one.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 2/11/23 at 10:39 am to
If you check my post history on mRNA vaccines this was my main objection to mRNA vaccines from the get go. No one could guarantee that the mRNA would stay in the injection site area and only muscle cells would produce the spiked protein antigen.

It's going to suck when a vital organ cells (such as a cardiac cells) produce the spiked protein and an immune response occurs in and around that vital organ.

Thus myocarditis.
Thus pericarditis.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 2/11/23 at 10:53 am to
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lol the irony is thicc

I remember a time when everyone was shamed into getting the shot if it meant saving the life of one grandma or fatty. You were the biggest piece of shite in the world if you refused. You had blood on your hands if one person died. Now, if everyone isn’t dying, you’re a Karen. An increase in the death rate doesn’t matter anymore. Now we need absolutely everyone dropping dead or else you’re a hysterical conspiracy theorist.

Talk about shifting goal posts.


Not only that, but when you point out one of their MANY lies, they mock you. No logical debate at all. Just mock you.

The idiots have taken control. The evil idiots that push these things know they have millions of obedient idiots ready to take up for them while they just get richer.

Funny how Progs are all now for big Pharma and the military industrial complex. All it took was a retarded President telling them about a "winter of death" to have them all onboard. Now they have their "war" (money laundering operation) to support too.
Posted by KirbySmartass
Member since Jul 2020
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Posted on 2/11/23 at 12:34 pm to
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I feel like these folks are going to be deep into old age and still telling their great grandkids about this


Well, the government colluding with private industry to try and force me to give up my medical freedom, and then trying to make me a 2nd class citizen for refusing to do so, was kind of a big deal.
This post was edited on 2/11/23 at 7:32 pm
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 2/12/23 at 10:04 am to
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Again, they are working on far more than a covid vax. There are plans to use mRNA on cancer. Cancer spreads to and through lymph nodes. It would be a good bet that mRNA used to treat cancer cells would not remain in arm, ideally. This doesn't say anything about the covid vax.


So as opposed to deflecting, here is your chance to state that the application of mRNA technology as described above isn’t being used to treat Covid.

Logic suggests otherwise.

Have at my friend…
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 2/12/23 at 10:07 am to
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Might try fentanyl too.


Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 2/12/23 at 10:40 am to
Trump's vaccine continues to kill.
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