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re: TFL Youtube channel tests Ford Lightning EV truck's towing range vs gas powered truck

Posted on 6/29/22 at 7:16 am to
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
16143 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 7:16 am to
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Not at all. 75% of truck owners haul something once or less per year according to Strategic Vision, an automotive consulting firm.


Oh those people, we call those people the compensators. Those people should have a station wagon or sedan.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37432 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 7:23 am to
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Load a Tesla up with luggage and kids and your battery is dying fast.


Is it?
Posted by Steadyhands
Slightly above I-10
Member since May 2016
6766 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 7:23 am to
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quote:
you want an electric truck for work and pull a decent weight trailer you will have to be sure your work space is less than 40 miles from home.


Or wait a couple years


Or use something that's been in existence for a long time with plenty of trial and error testing that you know works well, like an ICE.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32089 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 7:27 am to
Yeah the tech isn’t there yet.
Posted by XenScott
Pensacola
Member since Oct 2016
3120 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 7:28 am to
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my silverado gets 17mpg normal and 15mpg when towing well over 6k pounds


Nope.
Posted by WhereisAtlanta
Member since Jun 2016
847 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 7:28 am to
All this is why the Tesla truck will never come to market, anyone who believes you are towing things with battery powered trucks is a fool who deserves to be scammed.
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
8594 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 7:40 am to
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serious range anxiety


Excellent descriptive term.

Also a potential band name.
Posted by ozktgr
North Arkansas
Member since Mar 2020
326 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 8:01 am to
The tesla semi has been spotted around Bentonville recently. Not sure how close it is to launch but seems much closer than the cyber truck
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
36896 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 8:06 am to
How long did it take each to make the trip? I would think having to stop for 45 minutes to charge every 95 miles would make it a long trip.

I guess I just need to know this distance traveled, don't feel like looking out up. But that would be useful in the OP.
This post was edited on 6/29/22 at 8:14 am
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
36896 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 8:13 am to
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I say there's a large group of folks who don't care that much about towing range but still want a full sized truck.


I would agree with that. When I had a truck I never towed anything, but it was still useful to have a truck. Though it wasn't a big truck. But I also know plenty of people with big trucks that never tow anything.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259902 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 8:25 am to
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I say there's a large group of folks who don't care that much about towing range


That greatly decreases the utility of the truck if it cannot tow well. Why not get a small truck instead if you don't need towing power?

I wouldn't touch a truck that cannot tow very much. I imagine it will also affect resale.
This post was edited on 6/29/22 at 8:29 am
Posted by SpotCheckBilly
Member since May 2020
6402 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 8:30 am to
FORDB

Found On Road with a Dead Battery

(but not far from home)
This post was edited on 6/29/22 at 8:31 am
Posted by Kingpenm3
Xanadu
Member since Aug 2011
8958 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 8:44 am to
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That's decades away, if it will ever be possible. Only way is quick change batteries. Charging will always have a bottleneck.



I always thought swappable batteries would be the future, but it doesn't seem to be going that way.
Posted by madmaxvol
Infinity + 1 Posts
Member since Oct 2011
19126 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 8:47 am to
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The Lightning only got 95 miles of range, which is a little surprising to me considering the optimal conditions. The driver was getting serious range anxiety before he made it to the charging station. It took 45 min charging to get back to 75% charge.


That sucks...but I don't believe Ford is on the cutting edge of battery research and development. That being said, I can't think of an instance where I personally have towed anything over 6,000 pounds for more than 30 miles or so. I also know that towing in East Tennessee would be significantly more draining than the flatlands across parts of Colorado. I would be interested to see what a Cybertruck or a Rivian would do on this same test.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259902 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 8:55 am to
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Those people should have a station wagon or sedan.


Or, SUV.

They don't need a truck
Posted by bbarras85
Member since Jul 2021
1964 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 9:16 am to
Like those propane exchange racks. Drop off your dead batteries and pick up some hot ones.

I guess the batteries are so large this would not be feasible.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
118907 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 9:18 am to
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I always thought swappable batteries would be the future, but it doesn't seem to be going that way.


Yeah, but what would be the weight of them? Isn't the battery pack 1/3 of the weight of the truck?
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 9:24 am to
Thatll be the way eventually, but battery tech still has a ways to go in order to get there.

Diesel is still where we should be until some other tech becomes economically viable on its own.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72023 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 9:26 am to
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I guess the batteries are so large this would not be feasible.
In Scruffy’s Civic hybrid, the battery was the size of the entire backseat.

It would only be feasible if they were the size of regular car batteries.
Posted by G2160
houston
Member since May 2013
1749 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 9:52 am to
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That being said, I can't think of an instance where I personally have towed anything over 6,000 pounds for more than 30 miles or so.


It’s not even about 6000lbs. Any trailer is going to add more wind and rolling resistance. These are not trivial at highway speeds. Not to mention the required energy to get the trailer load moving to highway speeds.

Even if I tow relatively infrequently, a truck that can’t get me and the boat to the water and back without minimal downtime is a non-starter.

The day on the water is already long enough without having to add 2 stops at 45(?) mins each on a round trip.
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