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re: Taking vacation after starting a new job.
Posted on 1/31/24 at 3:19 pm to Jenious
Posted on 1/31/24 at 3:19 pm to Jenious
Benefits are negotiated (if at all) after the interview process. If it were to be discussed, it should be then. But, that being said, if I was hiring someone for a position that came with 6 weeks PTO I would make sure I would ask them, before an offer was made, if they had any PTO planned soon and if so / when so that we could factor that into the negotiations.
Posted on 1/31/24 at 3:21 pm to cfish140
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Most places won’t let you take vacation for the first 6 months
This just isn't true. Maybe in your field it is common, but most decent work environments don't shite on employees by rule. Hiring and training is expensive. The challenge really is if the employer accrues vacation time, there's no way a new employee really has it banked early on...
You can't really schedule around a job search. Some companies may hire you on the spot, while others drag the process out for months.
Posted on 1/31/24 at 3:23 pm to LSUfan4444
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I carry over the max every year and take every single hour of the 6 weeks I get.
How can you both carry over and use the max?
Posted on 1/31/24 at 3:25 pm to LSUfan4444
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I carry over the max every year and take every single hour of the 6 weeks I get.
You're lucky that you still "get vacation". Many places are moving to the "unlimited vacation" model.
Posted on 1/31/24 at 3:26 pm to concrete_tiger
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How can you both carry over and use the max?
I accrue 248 (6 weeks and a day) hours a year and can carry over 40 each year. Anything not taken or used is lost (outside of the 40)
So, each year I carry over 40 for 1st quarter travel and then I use the remaining 208...every single hour of it.
Posted on 1/31/24 at 3:27 pm to concrete_tiger
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How can you both carry over and use the max?
maybe only allowed to carry over a week? carrying over a week still allows them to use 6 weeks a year...but not first year but yeh i am confused also
Posted on 1/31/24 at 3:28 pm to Mo Jeaux
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Many places are moving to the "unlimited vacation" model.
Yeah...I don't like that. I have a few friends like that and they get scared to take time off "officially" so they just end up sneaking it even though they can take it but don't want to send the wrong message. It's a gotcha game I don't want to play.
Posted on 1/31/24 at 3:35 pm to Jenious
If the new employer agrees to it during the interview/hiring process, then it is what it is.
I took a week off from the job I have now over 20 years ago after I’ve been with him a month for vacation that had already been planned
I took a week off from the job I have now over 20 years ago after I’ve been with him a month for vacation that had already been planned
Posted on 1/31/24 at 3:37 pm to Jenious
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They all requested off and still took their vacations
If the requests were approved then what is the issue?
Posted on 1/31/24 at 3:38 pm to Jenious
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Yeah, but you're probably not the only person being interviewed so you're taking a risk bringing it up.
If a company is worried that one person is going to take a vacation early in their job that they don't have, that company has deep issues.
Posted on 1/31/24 at 3:41 pm to Mo Jeaux
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Many places are moving to the "unlimited vacation" model.
I mean once you get to certain roles and levels, that's pretty much what it is anyway, but yes i've heard of this model. I'm sure my European company will be going to this soon as well.
I work from home. I don't officially take off for 3 hours b/c i left to go get my kid from school and bring him to an appointment. I don't officially take off half a day when i leave early at 1 on a friday. Now if things were busy and i couldn't afford to leave early that day, then i simply wouldn't, and i've missed appointments for my kids b/c thigns popped up. When you have a boss that respects you and knows you are getting the job done, then most aren't going to give a shite about you taking a few hours off during normal working hours. It's not like you get paid overtime when you're doing work at 9pm on friday night, or at 6am on a sunday morning.
Do your work, have good results, and you'll have freedom to do whatever you want.
Basically, be a professional. We all understand we have shite going on in our lives, from dealing with kids issues, or even parent issues if they are elderly and sick. As long as it doesn't affect your work, then it shouldn't matter, adn if that means having to get work done during weird hours, then so be it. That's what being a professional is.
Posted on 1/31/24 at 3:44 pm to concrete_tiger
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How can you both carry over and use the max?
You can't. I'd assume he is using all his hours up to the carryover max, then carries over the max allowed. If their vacation hours are accrued each year, then it ensures that early in the year he will have enough hours banked to be able to do whatever he wants, even though they are the previous year's hours technically.
ETA: yea I see his response, that is what he is doing.
This post was edited on 1/31/24 at 3:46 pm
Posted on 1/31/24 at 3:44 pm to Jenious
Doesn't happen often, but someone usually lets me know if they have something planned before we hire them. As for me, I have never done it and don't expect I ever will.
Posted on 1/31/24 at 3:45 pm to Jenious
If they discussed this as part of being hired on, then it is not an issue. Otherwise, there should be a company policy regarding PTO.
Posted on 1/31/24 at 3:51 pm to cfish140
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Most places won’t let you take vacation for the first 6 months. I cancelled going to Austin for the 2019 lsu-Texas game when I first hired on because I didn’t want to be that guy that takes off the first weekend he’s scheduled to work.
I dont know ur exact circumstances- and i was at that game, it was incredible- but wouldnt it have made more sense to , when you get hired and are discussing your start date- if you had just said “Yeah im able to start on ____ (the Tuesday after that LSU/Texas game weekend)? Ive never started a job where it wasnt discussed what day/week id be available to start work, that would be feasible for myself and for the employer .
Posted on 1/31/24 at 3:55 pm to TheWalrus
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It should be specified during the hiring process. If so, should not be an issue. Dropping a surprise vacation two weeks in is in bad taste.
Specified during the hiring process at the RIGHT time...usually at the time an offer has been received and you're in later stage negotiations.
Posted on 1/31/24 at 3:56 pm to GEAUXT
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Lol frick that. I'd fire them just like the veteran in the other thread
Remind me to never ever work with/for you. If someone mentions this in the interview process that this was already planned and they hire you anyway, that's the boss's/interviewer's decision/problem. Life isn't all about work you know. frick that bull shite.
Posted on 1/31/24 at 3:56 pm to BilbeauTBaggins
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If a company is worried that one person is going to take a vacation early in their job that they don't have, that company has deep issues.
True.. i would just add, maybe instead of discussing ur planned vacation during the hiring process- why not just wait until you are extended an offer ? After every offer ive ever had, the next question is usually ‘When are you able to start ?’ Or something along those lines.. You can either say youre available on xx date (after whatever vacation you have planned), or you can let them know your plans and say “i dont mind starting before then , but ive already paid deposits for hotels’ or whatever, if you wouldnt mind honoring that scheduled vacation, or i can just start after we get back .. Ive never had a problem .
Posted on 1/31/24 at 3:58 pm to cfish140
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I cancelled going to Austin for the 2019 lsu-Texas game
I went to that game. I'm going out on a limb and say I will remember that weekend a LOT longer than anyone from your company will recall their first impression of you.
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