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re: Taking vacation after starting a new job.

Posted on 1/31/24 at 2:58 pm to
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
19344 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 2:58 pm to
We have the idiots who take their PTO day the day they earn it and of course the same ones miss work anytime there's a half arse excuse.
Posted by cheobode
Member since Dec 2017
1167 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 2:59 pm to
I had a planned vacation before I came to my current job. It wasn't anything spectacular and my wife and I agreed that it would be in bad taste to ask about it during the interview process so we just rescheduled it six months later.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58922 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 2:59 pm to
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Most places won’t let you take vacation for the first 6 months.


Eh. I don't know that this is true.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
53873 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 2:59 pm to
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i think if i had a vacation scheduled with a former employer while interviewing with a new company, i would jsut talk about it during the hiring process, like "hey just FYI, we scheduled this trip to bumfrickistan back a year ago, will this be an issue?" i definitely wouldnt wait until after being hired to drop it on the new employer.


I don't think it's the hires responsibility to mention it during the interview process if they are granted enough hours to cover the vacation once hired.

Now, if they need to accrue the hours and don't have it banked; different story.

If the employer grants PTO and has concerns with that given PTO being used before ____ days of employment, it's upon them to mention it. Not the hire.
Posted by Northshore Aggie
Mandeville, LA
Member since Sep 2022
4747 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 2:59 pm to
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If you take care of your employees, your employees will take care of you. Think about if you paid for a trip already and started a new job. Wouldn't you want your new employer to not make you cancel it.

yeah but it's on the new guy to communicate that when being hired.

i do agree that you have to take care of your guys though.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
53873 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 3:00 pm to
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Most places won’t let you take vacation for the first 6 months.


Well thats not true at all
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58922 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 3:00 pm to
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I don't think it's the hires responsibility to mention it during the interview process if they are granted enough hours to cover the vacation once hired.


I disagree. It could create some bad blood. I would likely wait until I had received an offer though.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32901 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 3:00 pm to
If you run a good operation it shouldn’t be that big of a deal. If vacation is offered then it should not come with any strings attached.
Posted by Gordon Hayward
Member since Jun 2016
1034 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 3:01 pm to
Why do you give a frick about what other people are doing? If you don’t like your job, go find a new one.
Posted by Northshore Aggie
Mandeville, LA
Member since Sep 2022
4747 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 3:01 pm to
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I don't think it's the hires responsibility to mention it during the interview process if they are granted enough hours to cover the vacation once hired.

maybe it's not their "responsibility", but it's just basic human interaction. communicate.
Posted by poochie
Houma, la
Member since Apr 2007
6302 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 3:01 pm to
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Most places won’t let you take vacation for the first 6 months.


red flag to not work there if it's smoothing you discussed.
shite, even if you tell them during the interview and they say no, don't take the job because that's how it's going to be going forward.
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
10945 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 3:01 pm to
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We've had quite a few new hires in the past few months and all of them had vacations scheduled with their former employer. They all requested off and still took their vacations. One guy was here for two weeks and took a week vacation. Our boss wasn't too thrilled about it but didn't want to deny them.

What's the OT say about this?



Was this discussed in the interviews?

It's not uncommon for someone already have a trip planned that they can not or do not want to cancel. However it should be discussed and agreed upon (or told to the employee that they are hired they won't be able to take the time off that soon) The the person interviewing for the job can make the decision on whether or not they want to pursuit the job.

If you're unemployed and interviewing for a job and bring up about need time off shortly after your hired for a vacation then yea that's kind of a dummy move and suspect.

ETA: I should add, your new employer should not be obligated to pay you for that time off if it's their policy to work a certain time before accruing vacation time either and you should not expect them to pay you for that time off.
This post was edited on 1/31/24 at 3:04 pm
Posted by Jenious
Member since Apr 2020
403 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 3:01 pm to
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If you let them.know during the interview process about your vacation and they offer you the job it's on them


Yeah, but you're probably not the only person being interviewed so you're taking a risk bringing it up. That may be a determining factor if they hire you or the other candidate.
Posted by Northshore Aggie
Mandeville, LA
Member since Sep 2022
4747 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 3:03 pm to
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I had a planned vacation before I came to my current job. It wasn't anything spectacular and my wife and I agreed that it would be in bad taste to ask about it during the interview process so we just rescheduled it six months later

yeah you definitly gotta weigh it. if it's a multi-thousand dollar trip to somewhere exotic, it's likely worth bringing up. if it's four day trip to Delta Downs, well...maybe just drop the trip until later.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
53873 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 3:04 pm to
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I disagree. It could create some bad blood.


It's the hires responsibility to understand the benefits and if the benefits state that you're given ___ hours upon being hired to use in _____ amount of time; the responsibility shifts to the employer if it's a concern. The hires concern was already answered when reviewing the benefits.

I don't think someone in a supervisory or managerial role shouldn't look down upon someone for using the benefits granted through employment

Anything I am looking for or expecting thats not in black and white, I feel it's my responsibility to mention it. Not someone elses responsibility to ask me about it.
Posted by Doug_H
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Sep 2013
2281 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 3:04 pm to
Known vacation needs should be discussed at interview, that's just common courtesy. That courtesy is typically reciprocated by the company/boss, matter of fact I cannot ever recall a single time I personally did not ever hire someone for that nor have I ever heard of that happening

Flip side, if we're talking about 1 or 2 days like a Friday or a Monday to make a long weekend for something that popped up then that should not be an issue if you are hired on with PTO to start.

People's lives shouldn't revolve around work, if you have PTO you can and should take it, but if you are just accruing PTO then a boss has every right to deny your time off request or fire you for taking off more PTO than you have
Posted by Northshore Aggie
Mandeville, LA
Member since Sep 2022
4747 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 3:04 pm to
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Yeah, but you're probably not the only person being interviewed so you're taking a risk bringing it up. That may be a determining factor if they hire you or the other candidate.

yeah. no shite. that's how life works.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68761 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 3:04 pm to
I would have a set amount of time they need to work before they get like a paid vacation.

It's the same with any benefits really.

Posted by aruss15
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
579 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 3:05 pm to
I did this when I got my new job. I had an out of town wedding to attend and a golf scramble on the Monday a week after I started. I told my boss up front that I was going to attend both of these and he said it was perfectly fine. They paid me like I had vacation with no issues. Had I not told him up front, then sure, that's definitely a problem.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25684 posts
Posted on 1/31/24 at 3:05 pm to
I did this with the job i took 5 years ago.
i had a hunting trip that was planned a year in advance and i was going on it no matter what. If they had a problem with that then i simply wouldn't take the job. They were the ones that wanted me and i had said i could wait to start after the trip or whatever they'd like. SO i started the job, worked for two weeks and then had my 6 day vacation. They gave me 5 weeks vacation when i started anyways.


Now had i been a new hire right out of college, or starting in a role with a new company that's outside of what my past experience is really in, then no i wouldnt' tell them i'm taking vacation right when i start.




I'll say this regarding vacation. If you don't want want me to take vacation, then don't give me the time off to take. ANd it doesn't matter what i'm taking off for. It's none of your damn business. If you're goign to give me 5 weeks, i'm likely going to try to take 4-5 weeks off. And i say that as someone who has 5 weeks of vacation and i really only take a full weeks worth maybe twice a year.
We all need time off, and i wish in America we were more laid back like the rest of the world is when it comes to work/vacation.
one of my European counterparts literally took off from December 4th to January 8th this year, which i think is ridiculous. 2 weeks is the absolute most anyone shoudl ever take at one time.
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