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Posted on 12/27/22 at 9:27 am to welder69
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Farmers don't like hiring Americans
This is 100% BS. Due to Govt handouts, it’s more lucrative to stay at home and collect subsidence rather than work for a living. The problem is now it’s spread to ALL segments of unskilled labor, not just agriculture
Posted on 12/27/22 at 9:34 am to bengaltigersfan
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What is done with all of the cane husks that have been ground/squeezed? I have seems piles of this by sugar mills.
SCB= Sugar Cane Bagasse
Posted on 12/27/22 at 9:40 am to tigerinthebueche
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That’s what the local farmers tell me too. Migrant workers outperform their American counterparts by a wide margin. It’s not just about the wages.
When I was touring the sugar mill yesterday, the guy was explaining to us that long ago, the mills taught their processing techniques to the Ecuadorians who then took those processes back home and used them. Over the years, the younger generations here lost interest in learning all the techniques on how to process and refine the sugar cane and its has become a lot art here, so they have to hire Ecuadorians to do the job b/c they are the only ones that know the whole process from start to finish. Thus the reason you see so many latinos working at the mills. When they took us into the lab where they run the tests for sugar content and such, the entire lab was all Ecuadorians.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 9:40 am to Midtiger farm
In 1965, I had a weekend job at one of the plantations in St Charles Parish scrapping sugar cane stalks and tying wagon chains. For all of 90 cent per hour.
I was highly motivated during the rest of the week to excel in high school math, English, and science.
The sugar content decays really fast after being frozen and the grinding season will be over by New years, so you can drive home fast after your party.
Unit operations lab at LSU literally was the on campus sugar mill. Grinding, pumping, flocculation, filtration, evaporation, crystallization, They did have a couple of distillation columns at the back of the building.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 9:46 am to bbarras85
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You don't really understand the enormity of it all until you see a massive warehouse with raw sugar piled 50-60' high.
Our kids used to climb and slide down the massive hills in a sugar warehouse. Perhaps the most interesting observation playing in the warehouses is that you won’t see any bugs or rats. I don’t think there are many things that eat raw sugar.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 9:48 am to bengaltigersfan
We put a ton of energy into processing them so we can get a little energy back put of them.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 9:51 am to jfw3535
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they have to hire Ecuadorians to do the job b/c they are the only ones that know the whole process from start to finish. Thus the reason you see so many latinos working at the mills. When they took us into the lab where they run the tests for sugar content and such, the entire lab was all Ecuadorians.
that may be the case in the mills. But the farmer I know put it this way: The American workers show very little initiative. Pay them at noon on Friday and they don't show back up after lunch. The Latinos hustle and literally sit under the tractor and eat their lunch. They work till they are told to stop and show up- even when they're sick.
I'm not choosing sides here, but I certainly understand his perspective.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 9:53 am to Midtiger farm
I’ve had H2A workers for 20 years I run job ads for help in the local papers I’ve only been contacted maybe twice by Americans
Posted on 12/27/22 at 9:56 am to tigerinthebueche
You won’t find many Americans to run a crawfish boat 7 months straight. Mexicans will outwork Americans that’s just a fact
Posted on 12/27/22 at 9:57 am to tigerinthebueche
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The Latinos hustle and literally sit under the tractor and eat their lunch. They work till they are told to stop and show up- even when they're sick.
I've been using Guatemalans and Mexicans for labor for years, they're hard working, honest, and more dependent than their deadbeat gringo counterparts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 9:57 am to bengaltigersfan
You....... were in the way.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 10:34 am to bengaltigersfan
Fat people need a constant flow of sugar. Can’t be taking holidays off when it comes to getting sugar to fatasses.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 10:56 am to bengaltigersfan
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I’m ignorant on this process.
The harvesting season usually runs from around Sept 24 to December 30, and is done from daylight until dark, or when the boss says to stop.
Work hours are contingent on the weather. Rain and Hurricanes can seriously Fk up a crop and cause a 10-25% loss of sugar recovery.
Grinding at the Sugar Mill is 24/7 until all the cane is weighed and processed
MA Patout & Sons in Patoutville was started in 1825 and they currently farm over 500,000 acres. On a good year, Patout produces 5,000,000 TONS of sugar annually. The Enterprise mill (pictured below) has 250 employees for grinding, and 180 during the off-season.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 11:20 am to bengaltigersfan
Bro the grind don’t stop for Christmas. Get a clue
Posted on 12/27/22 at 11:22 am to Trevaylin
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Unit operations lab at LSU literally was the on campus sugar mill. Grinding, pumping, flocculation, filtration, evaporation, crystallization, They did have a couple of distillation columns at the back of the building.
Nowadays UO lab is much more focused on chemical/refining operations. If I recall it’s a rotation through a bench-scale CSTR, some sort of stripper/absorber, and the distillation column you mentioned. I might be forgetting one station.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 12:11 pm to bbarras85
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You don't really understand the enormity of it all until you see a massive warehouse with raw sugar piled 50-60' high
Can vouch. I've climbed one of those piles before.
This post was edited on 12/27/22 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 12/27/22 at 12:24 pm to bengaltigersfan
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Also thinking there have been vehicle fatalities due to these trucks being on they road at night
Every vehicle fatality at night is because there are vehicles on the road at night. No more driving, for anybody, after sundown.
If it saves one life...
Now, let's talk aboot ending those pesky afternoon fatalities.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 12:44 pm to bengaltigersfan
Essentially, they run the mills balls to the wall during grinding and spend the rest of the year fixing everything.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 12:52 pm to Das Jackal
I used to work for a company years ago that would lease trucks to some local companies that would haul sugar cane. Majority of these truck would be brand new Freightliners with 10,000 miles or less.
These guys work so much and so hard the truck would age 5 years in 3-4 months.
These guys work so much and so hard the truck would age 5 years in 3-4 months.
This post was edited on 12/27/22 at 12:53 pm
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