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Posted on 3/23/15 at 4:26 pm to lsunurse
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reply was something along the lines of "Would we expect someone to lose weight first before they ever set foot at a Weight Watcher's meeting? Make an alcoholic be sober for so long before they attended AA meetings? How can any Christian ever be upset that someone is seeking God? God tells me to love one another, and that is what I will continue to do
i like it
Posted on 3/23/15 at 4:26 pm to uway
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you can agree that acting on an urge is a totally different thing than experiencing an urge.
Yes, I agree.
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The extremely difficult thing the Church tells people with same-sex attraction is that they should strive to live their lives without acting on their urges
thats exactly what my church teaches....it's the act
Posted on 3/23/15 at 4:27 pm to oleyeller
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thank you for the useless post carry on
So you're basically writing off everyone whose opinion differs from yours?
Posted on 3/23/15 at 4:27 pm to broeho
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Or at the very least there was a classic debate amongst friends and classmates: Is he gay? Or just really, really in to christianity? I don't really really understand why there was a correlation between the two, but there definitely seemed to be one.
Yes.
See Tim Tebow as the most obvious/well known example.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 4:27 pm to tigerpimpbot
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Baptists are gonna baptist.
because of the idiots actions dont say "baptists" i am baptist and anyone is welcome in my church
Posted on 3/23/15 at 4:28 pm to uway
100% agree. Most people don't want to be told they shouldn't do whatever makes them feel good 100% of the time. Thus the homosexual message from the church is viewed the way it is. Most people don't want to be told no.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 4:29 pm to oleyeller
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and i do not agree with homosexuality
Im not even sure what this means..
"Hey, im gay"
"I dont agree"
"No, I can assure you that I am"
"Nope"
or
"Hey, I like gettin up in that guy booty"
"Not me"
"Yeah, thats cool, most people dont"
Posted on 3/23/15 at 4:29 pm to oleyeller
at my church, a gay or Lesbian would be welcomed in but would eventually hear sermons that it is scripturally wrong, but as long he/she was was respectful i dom`t think they would be asked to leave..now the softball part of it our church rule was you had to attend two services a week to play just to keep a team from going out and getting a "hired gun" to get an unfair advantage over a bunch of middle age balding men.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 4:30 pm to Black n Gold
Isn't that exactly what you say about folks who don't agree with your opinion on homosexuality? It's a two way street bro.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 4:30 pm to Black n Gold
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quote:
thank you for the useless post carry on
So you're basically writing off everyone whose opinion differs from yours?
no man, i had simply said this thread is not about "is gay a sin or not" or "are baptist better than catholic" Obviously everyone has different views and opinions and they are entitled to that. Dont jump in attacking someone saying baptist are idiots or whatever was said. This thread isnt for that. It was simply to discuss one church and their banning of somone who was homosexual. Not all baptist churches do this. I dont agree with eveything catholic churches do or atheist do... but im not here to attack that, who am i to judge. my response to that post was because this thread isnt about that
Posted on 3/23/15 at 4:30 pm to LSU_Saints_Hornets
I really wish you didn't have so much hate in your heart for me.
I don't attend or host klan rallies.
You should prob go to church and do some praying about it.
I don't attend or host klan rallies.
You should prob go to church and do some praying about it.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 4:31 pm to Hester Carries
It means he doesn't view it as normal or acceptable behavior.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 4:31 pm to Moustache
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Right now, I don't know if anyone is exactly "born" that way.
You're right. Babies aren't born gay.
Or straight.
But what does that have to do with anything?
Posted on 3/23/15 at 4:32 pm to oleyeller
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Things like this are what gives "reigion" a bad name. Not every church is this way. Ours is not this way, and we both are southern baptist. I just cant comprehend how they think they are better than anyone else to deny them access to Gods word. You cant pick and choose what verses from the Bible you want to follow. There are people in that church who are adulters, who have lied, who have stolen. All sin is the same in Gods eyes.
You answered your own question. The Christian Church is supposed to be a church of sinners, for sinners, and run by sinners.
It's sad that many churches have chosen to react to progressive secular society by trying to block out all outside influences. All the while many of these churches seem to cherry pick which issues they openly condem, while letting others get handled in leniency.
Perhaps your church should print a list of every Bible verse where Jesus broke bread with an outcast (ie tax collectors, prostitute, leper). Take this list along with a nice narrative about how Jesus welcomed all, and how it was their duty to follow Christ's example.
You love the sinner, not the sin. As the song goes "We will show them we are Christians by our love."
Posted on 3/23/15 at 4:32 pm to tgrbaitn08
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thats exactly what my church teaches....it's the act
So we should be very careful with our wording and not say that "being" gay is a sin. How would you feel if the supposed earthly representatives of a supposedly loving God told you that simply being how you are (without respect to your actions and conscious choices) was sinful and made you unworthy of a place in church?
It would probably make you hate the Church and think the Christians were hypocrites.
This post was edited on 3/23/15 at 4:34 pm
Posted on 3/23/15 at 4:32 pm to oleyeller
I grew up Southern Baptist (membership is still with SBC church even though I mostly attend UMC now). I've never understood this, and never actually seen it in real life. My church was a large SBC and while it could get political, it was neither anti-gay nor fire and brimstone, so a lot of the SBC complaints are ones I never really understood (and I've been to a lot of SBC churches).
Anyway, I understand and respect that membership and attendance are different. Having an openly gay couple join the church is something that I understand may give churches pause. Frankly, it wouldn't bother me that much, but it would provide a weird situation in which I would want to balance tolerance and support for the people without celebrating or even endorsing the lifestyle.
But as for attendance, it never made sense to me why some evangelicals treat homosexuality so differently than other sins. Shunning just seems so counterproductive, especially in such a public manner. This seems like a case of very small minded people being more concerned about what people in the community think of them as individuals instead of what Christianity dictates they should do.
Anyway, I understand and respect that membership and attendance are different. Having an openly gay couple join the church is something that I understand may give churches pause. Frankly, it wouldn't bother me that much, but it would provide a weird situation in which I would want to balance tolerance and support for the people without celebrating or even endorsing the lifestyle.
But as for attendance, it never made sense to me why some evangelicals treat homosexuality so differently than other sins. Shunning just seems so counterproductive, especially in such a public manner. This seems like a case of very small minded people being more concerned about what people in the community think of them as individuals instead of what Christianity dictates they should do.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 4:33 pm to MeridianDog
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MeridianDog
You get it. Unfortunately, not many Christians do....but you get it.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 4:34 pm to Mattwells90
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It means he doesn't view it as normal or acceptable behavior.
Then say you dont accept it. Saying you agree with homosexuality means you are gay. Saying you disagree with it means youre straight.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 4:34 pm to AU66
Churches should have their doors open to everyone, at all times. Judgment should never pass through those doors. Each individual that walks into a church should only be concerned with their "sins" and how they are going to repent for them.
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