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Posted on 12/10/24 at 8:42 am to fr33manator
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Homeless, but can afford TVs, Xboxes, multiple smart phones.
You think they paid for those?
Posted on 12/10/24 at 8:44 am to Cosmo
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Homelessness is a symptom, not the disease. The disease is addiction and mental illness
But its easier for politicians to steal money with housing initiatives than with addiction and mental health initiatives
I get people want to help, but much of the thinking on this is bass-ackwards in that they are trying to cure the symptom (homelessness) with the belief that it will somehow cure the root cause (mental illness and/or drug addiction). All it does is prolong the problem while wasting fricktons of money, time and effort. Along with that, there are numerous stories about how funneling state money to these groups in California has become its own cottage industry, employing hundreds (perhaps thousands) of people at high salaries who ultimately do nothing but attend/hold conferences and make these grandiose plans that are extravagantly funded but the mismanagement and fiscal abuse is so horrible that the projects either barely or never get started (but that money certainly gets spent).
Posted on 12/10/24 at 8:46 am to RaoulDuke504
What people don’t want to admit is there is no fixing these people. You can’t simply give them a home and they suddenly become productive members of society. There is a way to fix the problem. But no one wants to admit it.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 8:53 am to RaoulDuke504
Homes don't fix addiction and mental illness.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 8:53 am to 0x15E
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I hear the yellow ones have the most calories.
I dont like the indian spices some can have.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 8:54 am to RaoulDuke504
Weird I wouldn’t have expected the feral animals to have trouble adjusting to indoor living lmao
Posted on 12/10/24 at 9:03 am to Darth_Vader
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What people don’t want to admit is there is no fixing these people. You can’t simply give them a home and they suddenly become productive members of society. There is a way to fix the problem. But no one wants to admit it.
I agree 100%, My mom's sister is a prime example. She is homeless, my mom and other siblings have tried to help her what seems like hundreds of times. 20 years ago my dad bought a small house and let her live there rent free, after a year she went bat sh$% crazy, basically destroyed the house and left.
She has gotten into multiply government housing programs and self sabotages every time.
She is on something at every family function. I try to avoid her as much as possible.
I knew she was a mental case when i was a teen in the early to mid 1990s , she would get beat up by her boyfriends and put in the hospital. when they got released from jail she was there to pick them up.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 9:03 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Most of your homeless are there by choice and wouldn't be in an asylum, they should be in rehab.
I don't really care where they go. Rehab, asylum or prison.
But get them off the streets and stop terrorizing normal people.
The masses shouldn't suffer for the few junkies, crazies.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 9:04 am to stout
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Posted on 12/10/24 at 9:07 am to RaoulDuke504
this is wild to read... it's almost as if some homeless people are homeless because of the way they behave... hmmm
Posted on 12/10/24 at 9:09 am to shutterspeed
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They’re homeless because of mental illness and/or substance addiction
The bad circumstances are simply the inevitable consequences.
No one's success story goes:
"And when I finally got on drugs, my life really turned around for the better."
Posted on 12/10/24 at 9:10 am to Cosmo
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Homelessness is a symptom, not the disease. The disease is addiction and mental illness
But its easier for politicians to steal money with housing initiatives than with addiction and mental health initiatives
Nailed it. Until we put mental illness and addiction services as the beginning of a plan to deal with this the problem will never get better.
But you're right, is easier to say the problem is housing than to overhaul the mental illness private hospitalization issue.
I currently have a friend that checked himself into a 28 day rehab facility and is getting the help he's needed for a really long time. It's so expensive, thankfully he has really good insurance but if you are homeless you obviously can't afford that.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 9:11 am to RaoulDuke504
quote:That sentence structure needs work. A period after homes would’ve done.
San Fran gave the homeless homes, they destroyed them and killed each other.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 9:13 am to Motorboat
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"most of the instability stems from a small group of tenants who do not receive the support they need"
^^ 100% this mindset is the problem. Blaming the lack of help on uncivilized personal actions. We are so fricked.
My very thought, the second I read it. No matter WHAT, WE are the problem, not them.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 9:15 am to RaoulDuke504
These people need to be locked away in institutions, not given free shite
Posted on 12/10/24 at 9:16 am to stout
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Remember the backlash those dudes who produced Bumfights got and how one of them went on Dr Phil dressed like Dr Phil and told Dr Phil that he basically does the same thing?
Literally the first thing I thought when I read the headline
Posted on 12/10/24 at 9:20 am to RaoulDuke504
Posted on 12/10/24 at 9:25 am to RaoulDuke504
The best way to help these people is to give them a room to sleep in. And lock the door.
100% of true homeless people are mentally ill, which includes addiction.
They live in a community of other mentally ill enablers. Nobody ever just escapes this without forceful help.
Lock them up. Rehab those that can be treated, leave the rest under lock and key. There's zero benefit to society having them on the street.
100% of true homeless people are mentally ill, which includes addiction.
They live in a community of other mentally ill enablers. Nobody ever just escapes this without forceful help.
Lock them up. Rehab those that can be treated, leave the rest under lock and key. There's zero benefit to society having them on the street.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 9:28 am to ghost2most
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There's a reason they had Asylums.
Closing those down was wrong. Reforming them is what needed to happen.
Involuntary commitment needs to come back but in a more humane way.
Yup, "the support they need" is closer there than in this shithole housing complex
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