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re: Raising a child in a non religious home with a very religious extended family
Posted on 12/29/14 at 3:27 pm to Hester Carries
Posted on 12/29/14 at 3:27 pm to Hester Carries
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It is unlikely to happen, though, with no background.
So?
Well, to me that means you have a preferred choice for them. That's cool. It would be your kids so it's up to you.
To me it would be like letting my adult kids who only grew up in the southern US and never took a language class in school decide what language they want to speak as an adult. Sure, they have a choice, but...
Posted on 12/29/14 at 3:29 pm to yallallcrazy
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Well, it may be. Depends on the parents.
Which part of my post is this in response to?
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No matter what you do, you are picking a starter path for your kid.
Meh. Maybe. Depends on whether or not you consider no path a path.
I have never gone to church with my kids, but they have been to Lutheran pre-school, church with various friends, church camp with various friends, and other church functions with friends.
Posted on 12/29/14 at 3:30 pm to yallallcrazy
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To me it would be like letting my adult kids who only grew up in the southern US and never took a language class in school decide what language they want to speak as an adult. Sure, they have a choice, but...
I think a more accurate description would be that, as a non-believer, it is my job to make up for the shortcomings of believers. If you are supposed to be a fisher of men, why do I have to throw my kid in the boat for you, but let him know "its cool, the waters nice."
Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:13 am to Salmon
I'll probably do what my dad did. My mom comes from a super religious family and when she would bring us to church, I'd always ask why dad wasn't coming. He would say shite like "i have to go play golf" and shite like that
I would always just go with it. He would raise occasional logic questions with religion as I got older
When I finally decided I didnt believe, he finally started to open up and we were like
Both my brother and sister ended up not believing as well fyi, so I guess the strategy works. Gotta play the long game
When I finally decided I didnt believe, he finally started to open up and we were like
Both my brother and sister ended up not believing as well fyi, so I guess the strategy works. Gotta play the long game
Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:23 am to Salmon
I have two newborns and an extremely religious mother-in-law.
I am considering teaching my children about the Flying Spaghetti Monster. That way, when they are preached to about Jesus or Mohammad, it'll sound equally ridiculous.
I am considering teaching my children about the Flying Spaghetti Monster. That way, when they are preached to about Jesus or Mohammad, it'll sound equally ridiculous.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:38 am to BeepNode
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I am considering teaching my children about the Flying Spaghetti Monster. That way, when they are preached to about Jesus or Mohammad, it'll sound equally ridiculous.
Jesus was born and was crucified, those are undeniable facts. Not quite the same thing.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:52 am to CidCock
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Jesus was born and was crucified, those are undeniable facts. Not quite the same thing
Don't confuse the man with facts! He's clearly got it all figured out.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:56 am to CidCock
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Jesus was born and was crucified,
Thats setting the bar kinda low though.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 10:08 am to Hester Carries
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Thats setting the bar kinda low though.
Religious or not, do yourself a favor and read the documented history of Jesus's years on the planet. The guy did some pretty good stuff.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 10:16 am to Salmon
Either way, they are growing up in a society with Christian values. It would benefit them to understand what the people around them are referring to when they speak of The Bible, it's quotes, it's lessons, etc. Look at it as if you're teaching them a subject like history, sociology or philosophy.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 10:21 am to Carson123987
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Both my brother and sister ended up not believing as well fyi, so I guess the strategy works. Gotta play the long game
feel sorry for your dad.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 10:26 am to Salmon
Why don't you grow some balls and tell your family that you're not religious and get it over with? Don't be surprised at your daughter getting a bible when you haven't told anyone that you're not Christian.
This post was edited on 12/30/14 at 10:27 am
Posted on 12/30/14 at 10:31 am to Broski
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Let your daughter make the decision.
This. Let her be exposed to Christianity. If she rejects it like you and your wife, then okay.
If she accepts Christ as her Lord and Savior or marries a jew and converts to Judaism...that's her business. Let her decide on this matter.
As for the childhood raising, it's hard to say how to handle that. Maybe let her ask questions when she's curious. let her read the Bible and books. Let her ask your questions. However, I think you'd be doing a great disservice to try and persuade her one way or another.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 10:40 am to CidCock
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Religious or not, do yourself a favor and read the documented history of Jesus's years on the planet. The guy did some pretty good stuff.
I guarantee you that i could pretty much write a comprehensive biography of the Biblical Jesus.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 10:44 am to Carson123987
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Gotta play the long game
This. Christianity (all the Abrahamic faiths really) makes so little sense that if you aren't browbeaten with it as a child you're probably not going to be drawn to it as an adult.
Literally none of the people I knew who grew up in non-religious homes became Bible thumpers as adults.
The Bible isn't any less ridiculous than say Norse or Greek myths, other than people treat it with maximum seriousness today
Posted on 12/30/14 at 10:45 am to Jake88
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Look at it as if you're teaching them a subject like history, sociology or philosophy.
there's only one small problem with this...
Posted on 12/30/14 at 11:29 am to CidCock
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Jesus was born and was crucified, those are undeniable facts. Not quite the same thing.
I'd probably rather teach my kids about a fictional character than teach them the whimsical story of a guy being tortured and nailed to a cross
Posted on 12/30/14 at 11:34 am to Salmon
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No one in either mine, or my wife's family knows our beliefs, or lack of belief concerning religion. We don't consider it anything that we need to announce or share with anyone, especially family. But now with a kid in the picture, things might get...tricky.
I have a hard time understanding this. Do your families think you regularly attend church, when you actually don't? Do you lie when religious discussions come up?
Anyway, maybe this book would help you. I haven't read it, but it would interest me when/if my wife and I have children.
ETA: Just catching up, I see someone has already suggested this.
This post was edited on 12/30/14 at 11:38 am
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