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re: Raising a child in a non religious home with a very religious extended family
Posted on 12/30/14 at 12:53 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 12/30/14 at 12:53 pm to SlowFlowPro
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that's bullshite, especially in religious areas (where i presume most posters on this board reside)
How Christian of them...
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Posted on 12/30/14 at 12:54 pm to urinetrouble
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I don't get this argument. I know plenty of people of people my age (millenial) raised in non-church going households who didn't have any social issues.
not where i live
and i live in a place with great public schools. i can't imagine the issues in a place like BR/Nola that require private education
it fades with age but is a REALLY BIG DEAL at a young age. religious parents do not want a non-believer poisoning their flock and they will ensure that the non-believer is excluded. you can disagree with this behavior all you want, but it's the reality of living in a religious area
Posted on 12/30/14 at 12:54 pm to dnm3305
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How Christian of them...
so you'd sacrifice your kid to make a silly point?
proving my point about this being a horribly selfish parenting decision
Posted on 12/30/14 at 12:54 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Way to completely miss what I was specifically addressing. People get really angry on these topics. It's fascinating.
Im not angry at all. People constantly tiptoe around this topic, espeically on this board. No one ever comes out and says anything to get to the root of stuff.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 12:55 pm to dnm3305
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People constantly tiptoe around this topic, espeically on this board. No one ever comes out and says anything to get to the root of stuff.
root of what?
Posted on 12/30/14 at 12:55 pm to dnm3305
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Im not angry at all. People constantly tiptoe around this topic, espeically on this board. No one ever comes out and says anything to get to the root of stuff.
You completely missed what I was addressing, though. I didn't want to call you dumb.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 12:56 pm to Y.A. Tittle
he reminds me of mongrybak
"you just don't get what i'm saying"
"you just don't get what i'm saying"
Posted on 12/30/14 at 12:57 pm to SlowFlowPro
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so you'd sacrifice your kid to make a silly point?
What the frick are you talking about sacrifice my kid?
Posted on 12/30/14 at 12:58 pm to dnm3305
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but anyone who has had kids should be able to easily figure out the logic of what he's saying there.
Yea, the logic is that it's the norm and he doesnt have to have tough conversations with little Jimmy or automatically make him a social outcast amongst friends/family. In other words, it's convenient.
When you have kids, grow up, and start realizing the world doesn't revolve around just you, you might be able to make an argument that doesn't make you sound like a selfish prick. You'll get there one day. I was just like you one day. Kids change your outlook on life
, for the better.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 12:58 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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You completely missed what I was addressing, though. I didn't want to call you dumb
Let me reread your post to see what Im missing...BRB....
Posted on 12/30/14 at 12:59 pm to SlowFlowPro
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and i live in a place with great public schools. i can't imagine the issues in a place like BR/Nola that require private education
The private school prevalence in BR/Nola is has way more to do with public school issues IMO, not a preference for religious institutions. If anything, people in urban areas are less religious.
I've seen it not be a problem at all with friends and family in BR/Nola.
Everyone's family and social circle is different, but I would imagine most atheists/agnostics have associate with more open-minded and accepting folks than the general population.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 1:00 pm to dnm3305
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What the frick are you talking about sacrifice my kid?
you'd put your kid at a severe social disadvantage to make a silly point? you'd sacrifice his/her social life for selfish reasons
Posted on 12/30/14 at 1:02 pm to urinetrouble
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The private school prevalence in BR/Nola is has way more to do with public school issues IMO, not a preference for religious institutions.
it has to do with population and the deseg order. it's reality no matter how you slice it. that reality can change, though
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Everyone's family and social circle is different, but I would imagine most atheists/agnostics have associate with more open-minded and accepting folks than the general population.
y'all really are just using this to take swipes at religious people, aren't you?
Posted on 12/30/14 at 1:02 pm to TeddyPadillac
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When you have kids, grow up, and start realizing the world doesn't revolve around just you, you might be able to make an argument that doesn't make you sound like a selfish prick. You'll get there one day. I was just like you one day. Kids change your outlook on life , for the better.
I dont understand how having kids would make me go against my beliefs/nonbeliefs just so that they have a better chance of fitting in. I understand where youre coming from about the "selfish prick" aspect, as you feel that Im pretty much making a decision on my kids behalf because they are too young to make their own decisions, but I would rather my kid have respect for me in the long run than have to answer a question when he's 10 years old like "Daddy, if you dont believe in God, then why are we going to church?". What do you say to that? "Because I felt like it was the right thing to do."??? Then he'll stare at you with that blank look on his face meaning "Seriously?"
Posted on 12/30/14 at 1:03 pm to urinetrouble
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I've seen it not be a problem at all with friends and family in BR/Nola.
I'm not sure I've ever pondered what my kids' friends (or their parents) actually abelieve or don't believe religiously. I've never once thought those parents are pondering it about my kids either.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 1:03 pm to SlowFlowPro
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y'all really are just using this to take swipes at religious people, aren't you?
you are the one that said religious people wouldnt let their kids associate with atheist children.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 1:04 pm to SlowFlowPro
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you'd put your kid at a severe social disadvantage to make a silly point? you'd sacrifice his/her social life for selfish reasons
Oh no, I understand what you meant. I made a rhetorical statement. I cant believe you actually believe that religion or lack thereof will put them behind the 8 ball when it comes to making friends or fitting in.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 1:05 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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I'm not sure I've ever pondered what my kids' friends (or their parents) actually abelieve or don't believe religiously. I've never once thought those parents are pondering it about my kids either
Exactly, so SlowFloPro's argument is complete bullshite. I wont give a flying frick if my kid is associating with religious kids or not as most parents wont either, one way or another.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 1:06 pm to dnm3305
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but I would rather my kid have respect for me in the long run than have to answer a question when he's 10 years old like "Daddy, if you dont believe in God, then why are we going to church?"
i like how you frame that question as a sign of "respect"
the answer: i want you to learn about Christianity and when you grow up i want you to learn about other religions and make your own decisions
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What do you say to that? "Because I felt like it was the right thing to do."???
what's wrong about this response?
i mean shite i hope you don't plan on allowing your child to engage in cultural memes like santa clause or the easter bunny
imagine how much respect he/she will lose when they ask the same questions about those characters
Posted on 12/30/14 at 1:07 pm to Hawkeye95
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you are the one that said religious people wouldnt let their kids associate with atheist children.
and that's life. it's a reality that i have to face as a parent. that is irrelevant to having a desire to give my kids the most social opportunities as possible to allow him/her to grow as a person the most
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