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re: Question for the atheists here

Posted on 6/11/20 at 7:11 am to
Posted by RidiculousHype
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Posted on 6/11/20 at 7:11 am to
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If true, how would the existence of a creator god affect this statement?


It doesn’t.

This thread isn’t about whether a creator exists.

I’m basically saying that even if one doesn’t, we might have “life” after death.
Posted by taylork37
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 6/11/20 at 7:12 am to
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It's a bold strategy that only time will confirm. It's a ballsy approach to toying with forever after life.


I mean... on the flip side, the amount of time and energy spent (not to mention money if you are doing it correctly) on ensuring you MIGHT be one of the lucky if that forever after life even exists is quite the bold approach as well, wouldn't you say?




Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 6/11/20 at 7:13 am to
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This thread isn’t about whether a creator exists.


Then why direct the thread solely to atheists?
Posted by Mr Perfect
Member since Mar 2010
17836 posts
Posted on 6/11/20 at 7:14 am to
hey dude. don't have children and spread indoctrination. we need less ppl like you who believe in fairy tales
Posted by RidiculousHype
The Hatch
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 6/11/20 at 7:18 am to
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Then why direct the thread solely to atheists?

Because I always see atheists make the claim that after death, it’s lights out forever.

I don’t see how they don’t allow for the possibility I’m talking about, even if they don’t believe in a creator.
Posted by whit
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 6/11/20 at 7:24 am to
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It’s too early for this shite
Posted by Steadyhands
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Member since May 2016
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Posted on 6/11/20 at 7:51 am to
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quote:
atoms couldn’t rearrange themselves in the same exact pattern at some point in the future?


I suppose they could, and then there would be another person in the future exactly like me in the present.

I don't think it would be "me" again, though.


This is my take. In addition, everyone and everything else would have to be exactly the same around you, to recreate the same memories. Even if it were, would you necessarily make the exact same choices and decisions again....find out more after bowl number two.
Posted by iAmBatman
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Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 6/11/20 at 8:06 am to
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Let’s think about this logically.


quote:

when you die, there’s nothing - no more consciousness ever again


did you have any of this before you were born? why would it not be the same after you die?
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 6/11/20 at 8:07 am to
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But I’m the dumb one.
yes, I agree. Atheists have no answer for how something could come from nothing (the big bang) and evolution is the stupidest religion ever concocted. It is unfathomably stupid that humans with iqs above 70 would believe in evolution. surely you haven't given it much thought at all and simply fall back on it bc you've been brainwashed into it. when I say brainwashed I don't inherently mean it negatively, simply matter of fact.
Posted by The Third Leg
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Posted on 6/11/20 at 8:11 am to
In the history of humanity, there has never been a shred of credible evidence supporting beliefs in a higher power or afterlife.
Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
22346 posts
Posted on 6/11/20 at 8:15 am to
I'm not an atheist, I just don't subscribe to pretending one religion is right and another is wrong.

Hindus believe in many gods and their religion is millennia older than Christianity. Who is to say they are wrong?

Just remember, your religion is just as likely to be bullshite as Hindus, Muslims, Jews, etc. If you can reconcile that with your logical brain, kudos to you. I can't. Humans have been wrong on too much for me to think that only 1 religion got it right. Logically it is more likely that they are all wrong and have been twisted by human corruption.
Posted by FieldEngineer
Member since Jan 2015
3151 posts
Posted on 6/11/20 at 8:15 am to
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Because I always see atheists make the claim that after death, it’s lights out forever.

I don’t see how they don’t allow for the possibility I’m talking about, even if they don’t believe in a creator.


That's because there is no evidence to suggest otherwise.

Why don't you allow for the possibility of the Flying Spaghetti Monster?
Posted by gerkin
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 6/11/20 at 8:19 am to
In this statement you’re showing you don’t understand evolution or atheism.
Posted by RidiculousHype
The Hatch
Member since Sep 2007
10996 posts
Posted on 6/11/20 at 8:19 am to
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That's because there is no evidence to suggest otherwise.

I'm questioning the blanket statement "after death, there's nothing". We don't have evidence that's necessarily true either. It's speculation.

If brilliant astrophysicists believe there may be an infinite number of universes, big bangs/crunches, then the physical properties that make you, "you", could occur more than once, right?
Posted by FieldEngineer
Member since Jan 2015
3151 posts
Posted on 6/11/20 at 8:19 am to
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Atheists have no answer for how something could come from nothing (the big bang)


Religious people don’t have an answer for that either.

quote:

and evolution is the stupidest religion ever concocted.


Evolution isn’t a religion. You seem confused.
Posted by FieldEngineer
Member since Jan 2015
3151 posts
Posted on 6/11/20 at 8:21 am to
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I'm questioning the blanket statement "after death, there's nothing". We don't have evidence that's necessarily true either. It's speculation.


Correct. Stating a belief as fact with no evidence is wrong.
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
19728 posts
Posted on 6/11/20 at 8:29 am to
You're assumpive response to the OP is filled with assumptions that assume that you know what happens when people die, unless


you're already dead?

Maybe there is a memory cell that you're overlooking? Hmm?


(See this can go on forever until you decide where your beliefs are anchored.)
Posted by terriblegreen
Spokane, LA
Member since Aug 2011
12477 posts
Posted on 6/11/20 at 8:31 am to
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atoms couldn’t rearrange themselves in the same exact pattern at some point in the future?


Anything is possible.

I consider myself an agnostic. I have no memory of before I was born. I suppose it'll be that way after I day. I'm not saying there isn't a god, but I've seen a lot of fricked up shite in my life. I have trouble reconciling that with a loving god.
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
19728 posts
Posted on 6/11/20 at 8:31 am to
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Correct. Stating a belief as fact with no evidence is wrong.

And stating your belief in evidence that is unproven as fact is also wrong.
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
37017 posts
Posted on 6/11/20 at 8:32 am to
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How do you know that, after you die, in some other universe in the future, atoms couldn’t rearrange themselves in the same exact pattern at some point in the future?


How do you know that they could?
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