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re: Potential for more Trump Bucks coming your way! New proposed legislation

Posted on 4/15/20 at 8:41 am to
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87748 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 8:41 am to
I was ok with the first one

I'd be pissed about this one

If we're just printing money make everyone eligible

frick funding solidly-middle class bailouts with arbitrary cutoffs.
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
13799 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 8:41 am to
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great grandchildren will still be paying this shite back.

You people who think this debt is real have always fascinated me. We pay it back by printing more money. As long as the USD is the foreign exchange currency of record, then we never have to pay any of it back.
Posted by OleWarSkuleAlum
Huntsville, AL
Member since Dec 2013
10293 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 8:42 am to
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frick funding solidly-middle class bailouts with arbitrary cutoffs.


If you make >$260,000 you are wealthy. We aren’t trying to further increase wealth disparity.
Posted by OleWarSkuleAlum
Huntsville, AL
Member since Dec 2013
10293 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 8:43 am to
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You people who think this debt is real have always fascinated me. We pay it back by printing more money. As long as the USD is the foreign exchange currency of record, then we never have to pay any of it back.


It’s as if people never even heard Alan Greenspan years ago say this. You cannot default of debt denominated in its native currency. Additionally, as long as GDP continues to increase and we do not have full employment inflation is not a concern.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87748 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 8:44 am to
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If you make >$260,000 you are wealthy. We aren’t trying to further increase wealth disparity.



a couple grand doesn't further increase wealth disparity

The idea that a couple making 245k has some slew of additional burdens than a couple making 325k or whatever doesn't is stupid
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52640 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 8:45 am to
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You people who think this debt is real have always fascinated me. We pay it back by printing more money.




Jesus.
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
43342 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 8:45 am to
No way that passes
Posted by OleWarSkuleAlum
Huntsville, AL
Member since Dec 2013
10293 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 8:47 am to
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The idea that a couple making 245k has some slew of additional burdens than a couple making 325k or whatever doesn't is stupid


If it were up to me the cutoff would be $100,000
Posted by terriblegreen
Spokane, LA
Member since Aug 2011
12459 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 8:48 am to
Where in the frick do people think this money comes from?? We can't sustain giving people thousands of dollars a month. This is getting fricking ridiculous.
Posted by John88
Member since Sep 2015
6439 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 8:48 am to
Finna eat
Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
Member since Jul 2008
39313 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 8:49 am to
Yea that’s a no from me dog.

I was fine without the actual trump check tbh.
Posted by OleWarSkuleAlum
Huntsville, AL
Member since Dec 2013
10293 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 8:49 am to
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Where in the frick do people think this money comes from?? We can't sustain giving people thousands of dollars a month. This is getting fricking ridiculous.


The thing is we actually can sustain it easily. This black swan event has proven the case for UBI.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
17820 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 8:50 am to
An extra 2000 would certainly be nice. I could pay off all remaining debt and have my savings looking wonderful.

But there is absolutely 0 chance this happens. Zero. I seriously doubt what they are proposing is even feasible, beyond fricking up this country for generations to come.

But hell, at this point, Andrew Yang shouldn't have dropped out of the race if everyone is trying to adopt his ideas
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 8:51 am to
Dude, I don't need an extra 2000/month. That seems a little ridiculous.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
44842 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 8:51 am to
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That won't pass and we can't afford it.


You can’t be serious? We haven’t been able to afford anything since about 1980.
Posted by OleWarSkuleAlum
Huntsville, AL
Member since Dec 2013
10293 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 8:53 am to
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Dude, I don't need an extra 2000/month


Okay give me your money then. I’ll continue to funnel it into ITOT.
Posted by LarryCLE
Member since Apr 2017
1730 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 8:54 am to
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87748 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 8:54 am to
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If it were up to me the cutoff would be $100,000



The only thing I'd be comfortable with is waiting to see how the reopening progresses and then considering another similar payment as the first time. We're already giving out like 40k salaries in UE, the bulk of that which isn't actually coming from UE insurance.
Posted by Smoke7024
Member since Jun 2010
24128 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 8:54 am to
So they want to give my family $5,000 a month? This is getting ridiculous.
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
13799 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 8:54 am to
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Jesus

Here's the difference between the U.S. doing this and other countries doing it: currency doesn't have value in a vacuum. It has value relative to other currency. For instance: when Venezuela prints money, it's Bolivar goes from being worth 10 to $1 to being worth 10.000 to $1. So the buying power of the currency drops.

But if we print more money, $1 is still worth $1....on ONE CONDITION. That condition is that the USD$ remains the currency by which international commodities are traded and priced. As long as oil, beef, corn, chicken, steel, etc are all priced in USD$ then our currency won't devalue no matter how much of it we print.
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