re: Police locate kidnapped girl, then shoot and kill innocent kidnapped girl (YouTube)

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It's real easy to armchair quarterback the actions of men under duress during a gun fight. Unless you've been there, you have no fricking clue how quick things can go to the shitter.

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Nah, everyone here has been few gunfights before and have successfully killed all the bad guys and saved the good guys....at least in their video game world.


The cop(s) that accidentally shot her are probably on suicide watch. This a terrible outcome for everyone except the POS father.

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As the cops were running up they saw the girl in full tactical gear and they shot her.

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since when is being in tactical gear grounds to be shot? If the cops werent there there's no need for them to be firing if they dont know who to fire at

i usually defend officers, i know they have a tough job and take alot of unwarranted crap. There's no defending this though.

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If im the deputy that was trying to help her i wouldve murdered the dumb arse that fired.

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Its amazing how irrational this board can be. You think the person that fired the shot saw her and thought "ima kill that kid"?



If cops were trained like seal team 6 then this probably wouldn't of happened. But they aren't anything but reg joe's off the street who took a simple course. If you want seals patrolling the streets then contact your representative and ask them get it done. Also ask them to up your taxes by a far margin because they aren't cheap like joe's off the street.

Seems like the only answer is more defunding of the police amirite?

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Pray for those involved, this is a traumatizing event for everyone, especially the man who pulled the trigger.

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The man who pulled the trigger should be traumatized, and he should also be put in jail.

I'm somewhat sympathetic to both viewpoints.

- First, it's unacceptable. It just can't happen. Nobody should apologize or excuse it. When you sign up for the job you take on the responsibility.

- Second, I think it's worth considering how we talk about and handle this stuff on the backend. While there will always be some people up for the challenge/responsibility (for better and worse) the pitch of "come make 50-70k in a career where you may be labeled a murderer for errors in judgment" will ultimately lead to what we're seeing - difficulty in finding good LEOs.

Candily, I'm not sure how we reconcile them. There probably aren't enough realistic candidates for the amount of LEOs we need who can do the job as we all envision. So you're in a position where you either have to greatly increase the incentive to get into the field for those with higher intelligence/judgment, or you have to strike some sort of balance where you hold the idiots responsible without going so far as to alienate cops and reducing the number of aspiring LEOs.

I think we're in a situation now where the people who want to work those jobs for modest pay and potentially life altering risk is naturally a combination of good-judgment alphas and bad-judgment imbeciles. In other words, not ideal.

The hatred of police in this country has resulted in having to hire fricking retards. This is gross incompetence on the part of this officer and their entire department.

We've made it so undesirable to be a cop that we're hiring former jarheads and morons.

This blood is on the hands of the 'Defund The Police' camp. Way to go, motherfrickers. You just killed a 15 year old girl.

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Pray for those involved, this is a traumatizing event for everyone, especially the man who pulled the trigger.

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I hope hes not traumatized yet. Hes got a lot to deal with when they lock him up. If I were him, Id be prepping how I was going to do my time.

I once thought about it this way

I am a CPA. I have thought back on how dumb some entry level staff are. Like dumb dumb. And we only hired 3.5 Gpa and above college graduates. But, the only responsibility they had was the first pass through reconciling bank statements, sending out confirmations, etc

Entry level cops get hired straight out of high school almost with 2.0 gpas and they get a gun and license to kill

Kinda terrifying

Are cops not taught to assess a situation and identify their target?

Every body cam I see shows them wetting their pants and emptying the magazine anytime they are confronted with a threat.

I guess with terrible pay, police departments just recruit men with low T.