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re: Points to ponder - regarding violent criminals roaming freely among us.
Posted on 4/25/26 at 12:16 pm to chillygentilly
Posted on 4/25/26 at 12:16 pm to chillygentilly
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US reported homicide rate peaked around 1991.
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Posted on 4/25/26 at 12:25 pm to Babewinkelman
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13%
Very underrated post
Posted on 4/25/26 at 12:44 pm to choupiquesushi
I saw a stat not long ago that the city of Chicago has a list of, basically, dangerous people, and the vast majority of crimes are committed by them.
So they know exactly who’s gonna do bad shite and the judges and DA keep letting them walk.
So they know exactly who’s gonna do bad shite and the judges and DA keep letting them walk.
Posted on 4/25/26 at 12:53 pm to I 10 one lane merge
I see a lot of black people posting in response to the governor's remarks. If sacrificing this kid gets them to care about what their kids are doing then so be it. It being optional is a root cause of the problem
Posted on 4/25/26 at 12:56 pm to jmarto1
What qualifies as “cruel and unusual punishment” has jumped the chain gang.
Posted on 4/25/26 at 6:44 pm to choupiquesushi
China and Japan have low crime rates. Beside culture, it's harsh prison sentences and horrid living conditions in prisons. No one wants to go to prison.
Knew a guy that worked on a private prison in louisiana. Added roof to full court cement basketball court. Had beach volleyball court. Had soccer field. Prison cells had microwaves and 52" plasma tvs in them. Built addition for dentistry and medical. Built classroom building with 60+ brand-new desktop Dell pcs. I mean (shrugs shoulders)
Knew a guy that worked on a private prison in louisiana. Added roof to full court cement basketball court. Had beach volleyball court. Had soccer field. Prison cells had microwaves and 52" plasma tvs in them. Built addition for dentistry and medical. Built classroom building with 60+ brand-new desktop Dell pcs. I mean (shrugs shoulders)
This post was edited on 4/25/26 at 6:45 pm
Posted on 4/26/26 at 9:18 pm to cgrand
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What percentage of the people walking freely among us - should not be? I'd say 10 percent
13%
Posted on 4/26/26 at 9:27 pm to armytiger96
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They should just drop them off on St Lawrence Island , AK and say "Welcome to your new home; Survive or die."
France did that up until the '50s on islands off the coast of French Guiana. The death rate there was over 50%.
The Steve McQueen movie 'Pappilion' is based on this.
Posted on 4/26/26 at 9:43 pm to choupiquesushi
And what's crazy is that I believe all problems in society can be fixed, it just has to be approached aggressively and like anything else, there will be mistakes made to do, what would eventually lead to safer streets, etc, however; that one mistake would lead to a huge lawsuit and that reason alone has lead to a less aggressive approach on crime.
And a main reason for this is because there are cameras everything so there is evidence which means law enforcement have limits to what they can do. I am not saying I support police violating people's rights, I am just saying there might be times when that line would be crossed in order to get something done.
In an ideal world there would be some type of group that would assess society and then determine what is a net negative and net positive for society and then implement changes that would favor the positives and illuminate the negatives.
And a main reason for this is because there are cameras everything so there is evidence which means law enforcement have limits to what they can do. I am not saying I support police violating people's rights, I am just saying there might be times when that line would be crossed in order to get something done.
In an ideal world there would be some type of group that would assess society and then determine what is a net negative and net positive for society and then implement changes that would favor the positives and illuminate the negatives.
Posted on 4/26/26 at 9:49 pm to OweO
Problem is police are arresting them - it’s the prosecution and sentencing where things go off the rails
Posted on 4/26/26 at 10:20 pm to AUFANATL
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France did that up until the '50s on islands off the coast of French Guiana. The death rate there was over 50%.
I don't see a problem here. I may have to check out the movie.
This post was edited on 4/26/26 at 10:21 pm
Posted on 4/26/26 at 10:32 pm to wfallstiger
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To rehabilitate, requisite social mores' and values must be present
Totally agree. I don't want rehabilitation. I want these miserable animals jailed for long arse times, and if they killed - they need to be put down like the rabid dogs they are.
Posted on 4/27/26 at 11:51 am to choupiquesushi
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Problem is police are arresting them - it’s the prosecution and sentencing where things go off the rails
Good point. And I can't imagine what its like for a parent who had their child taken from them, by some animal, who has a long rap sheet.. Its as if the judges are saying "okay, you keep doing all of these things, but unless you kill someone I am not going to really punish you.
This is where we need something that will take them off the street and put them into some type of program that teaches them something other than the streets. A 3 year program. Long enough that they wouldn't be able to just set right back into what they had been doing, but that would require government agreeing to do something that could actually be useful, which isnt going to happen.
Posted on 4/27/26 at 12:51 pm to OweO
democrat prosecutors and judges letting them out all the time
Posted on 4/27/26 at 1:07 pm to choupiquesushi
The majority of felony crimes are committed by the same 5% of the population or so. 80% with no felony convictions, 75% of the rest with just one conviction, leaving the rest as multiple offenders.
So if we can just get real nasty for a bit and dispose of the population with multiple felonies, we'd see marked inprovement.
So if we can just get real nasty for a bit and dispose of the population with multiple felonies, we'd see marked inprovement.
Posted on 4/27/26 at 1:20 pm to choupiquesushi
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Everything else plead down to dang near misdemeanors -
This is why all these people quoting statistics of “non-violent” criminals being locked up for petty crime and simple drug possession are either liars or retarded.
Posted on 4/27/26 at 1:24 pm to choupiquesushi
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I wonder what percentage of crimes are committed by people that 30-40 years ago would not have been roaming freely among us today.
I'd have to imagine the rate of criminals roaming freely and committing crimes would be significantly higher in the past due to the sheer insanity of how high crime rates were back then, and more people (by %) are incarcerated today.
Much higher crime rate + lower incarceration rate = more criminals roaming 30-40 years ago committing more crimes
Posted on 4/27/26 at 1:26 pm to NIH
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Because of gang wars when crack exploded. Crime in normal areas is more pervasive, which is what people care about.
I thought more about your question the other day and I think the dramatic increase in SES across the board has led to more people in the demos more likely to commit these crimes being able to do things like travel, engage in commerce, etc. That's one reason it seems so different today.
Poor people back in the hellscape of 75-95 were much more poor comparatively and didn't have cars or go to the mall to shop, etc.
Posted on 4/27/26 at 1:29 pm to EmperorGout
quote:Are the numbers being compared the exact same? What are the sources? Do people report violent crime at the same rate as they did in the past?
The violent crime rate was significantly higher 30-40 years ago,
Posted on 4/27/26 at 1:30 pm to EmperorGout
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The violent crime rate was significantly higher 30-40 years ago, there just were no cell phones or social media so no one saw it in HD
Even assuming that's true & the modern statistics aren't manipulated in any way, it doesn't absolve the issue at all.
40 years ago, criminals were free because nobody knew they commited a crime.
Today, criminals are free because judges are letting them off the hook even AFTER seeing the crime. It's one thing to be ignorant, it's much, much worse to know better and still choose wrong anyways
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