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re: Plane crash in Palm Beach County today
Posted on 11/1/26 at 3:41 pm to Adam4848
Posted on 11/1/26 at 3:41 pm to Adam4848
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The horizontal stabilizer is gone
It looks that way to me too.
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If tweet fails to load, click here.Posted on 11/1/26 at 3:42 pm to Btrtigerfan
Just listened to the ATC audio. That was fricked.
Posted on 11/1/26 at 3:43 pm to baldona
It's been raining in SoFla for a month
Posted on 11/1/26 at 3:44 pm to Btrtigerfan
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The horizontal stabilizer is gone
If that is the case, it will likely be found somewhere fairly nearby.
Posted on 11/1/26 at 3:44 pm to Adam4848
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The horizontal stabilizer is gone
That could be the cause, also at 18,000+ foot per minute rate of descent it could have ripped off
Posted on 11/1/26 at 3:44 pm to baldona
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but it seems like most icing issues are in the winter when the planes have ice before take off?
You can get in-flight ice at any time of the year. Commercial planes have systems that take care of it.
Winter is when you see the tarmac de-icing
Posted on 11/1/26 at 3:45 pm to TBoy
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You would think a descent to warmer air over south Florida might be a better plan.
Not how it works.
Posted on 11/1/26 at 3:46 pm to baldona
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I know it’s like -50 at that altitude, but it seems like most icing issues are in the winter when the planes have ice before take off?
Thunderstorm tops over south Florida are above 45,000 feet right now and severe icing conditions are always present near thunderstorms. Unfortunately, they didn’t avoid the weather.
Posted on 11/1/26 at 3:47 pm to Tyga Woods
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You can get in-flight ice at any time of the year. Commercial planes have systems that take care of it.
Again, don't know much about planes, but it's extremely cold at altitude, and with the precipitation, wouldn't take much for it to flash freeze on the plane huh?
Posted on 11/1/26 at 3:47 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
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listened to the ATC audio. That was fricked.
Yeah that last comment. Damn.
Posted on 11/1/26 at 3:47 pm to The Boat
That ATC recording is awful. Those poor people knew there was no way out.
Posted on 11/1/26 at 3:47 pm to baldona
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I know it’s like -50 at that altitude, but it seems like most icing issues are in the winter when the planes have ice before take off? It’s rare you hear about an icing issue in the summer. Weather in Austin and Florida is nice. It does look like there’s been weather in South Florida all day they damn near flew straight through.
You need two things for icing to develop:
Moisture and a temp below 32F (give or take some degrees depending on how much moisture is in the air)
This post was edited on 11/1/26 at 3:49 pm
Posted on 11/1/26 at 3:47 pm to Bestbank Tiger
quote:a mechanical failure that made the plane nose dive? Lmao alright man
was obviously mechanical failure.
Posted on 11/1/26 at 3:48 pm to The Pirate King
Correct. That’s why planes have systems to deal with it in-flight.
Posted on 11/1/26 at 3:50 pm to Adam4848
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The horizontal stabilizer is gone
First thing I noticed in that picture. You can see the wings. Wonder if its just a low quality picture or if they came off before the dive.
Posted on 11/1/26 at 3:52 pm to DalenSA
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mechanical failure that made the plane nose dive? Lmao alright man
Alaska Air 261 says hello.
Posted on 11/1/26 at 3:53 pm to The Pirate King
I haven’t studied the systems on a Lear 60, but from some research they do have inflight anti icing system, but it has to be activated prior to flying into known icing conditions.
A failure to activate that prior to flying into that weather could be the cause
A failure to activate that prior to flying into that weather could be the cause
Posted on 11/1/26 at 3:54 pm to cajunangelle
That was very disturbing to listen to.... had to stop. Looked at the X link and the first comment said fake AI. What a disgusting comment.
Posted on 11/1/26 at 3:55 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
Dear Lord.
Posted on 11/1/26 at 3:56 pm to 18handicap
Sadly there have been 'leaked' ATC comms that are fake so saying 'fake' isn't a big deal anymore at least I don't think it is.
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