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re: Per a peer-reviewed study, "Horse paste" (Ivermectin) reduced CV19 mortality rate by 70%
Posted on 1/19/22 at 8:54 am to fr33manator
Posted on 1/19/22 at 8:54 am to fr33manator
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Ivermectin has seen widespread used in multiple species, including humans, for various ailments, because it works.
It’s been used in humans for 30 years and the scientist who developed it literally won a Nobel prize for it.
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Posted on 1/19/22 at 8:55 am to stout
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stout
Thanks for the study. I will add it to my list of medical studies to read this week.
ETA: I just skimmed the article and two things jumped out at me.
1. The number of individuals who used ivermectin is 3x's the number who did not use it.
2.
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Being a prospective observational study that allowed subjects to self-select between treatment vs. non-treatment instead of relying on randomization, important confounders may have been differentially present, which could otherwise explain the differences observed. Given that the benefits measured occurred despite negative risk factors being more present in the treatment group, this suggests the benefits are likely accurate and unbiased. Further, studies relying on PSM techniques have been shown to consistently agree with those employing randomization [37,38], again supporting the likelihood that the benefits measured are accurate. The prevailing type of SARS-CoV-2 in the city was unknown due to the lack of genotyping surveillance during the period of the program. Whether the prophylaxis proposed in this program would be as effective in other SARS-CoV-2 variants is unclear. Also, there was no strict control on whether infected subjects used any specific drug in case of COVID-19 infection, and this allows the possibility that the differences may be explained by differences in the use of ivermectin or other medications as treatment.
The limitations of this study are pretty strong so it's not the game changer that some of you are thinking it will be. I'm still going to read it more throughly with an open mind when I get the time.
This post was edited on 1/19/22 at 9:05 am
Posted on 1/19/22 at 8:55 am to JFT96
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How about just get the damn shot and not have to rely on horse paste to save your life while you are laying there dying?
Uh, the shot doesn't work, so why subject yourself to the health risks that come with it?
Posted on 1/19/22 at 8:55 am to JFT96
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How about just get the damn shot
How about GFY
Posted on 1/19/22 at 8:55 am to stout
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There were 25 deaths among ivermectin users
Doesn’t work.
Says it right there in the study.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 9:02 am to MikeBRLA
quote:Everyone knows that the Nobel prize commission is a huge right wing/alt-right entity.
It’s been used in humans for 30 years and the scientist who developed it literally won a Nobel prize for it.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 9:07 am to nerd guy
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We instead use article-level metrics such as reads, downloads and citations. Cureus also encourages all readers to submit an SIQ (Scholarly Impact Quotient) score for each article. SIQ is our unique post-publication peer review system that assesses article importance and quality by embracing the collective intelligence of the Cureus community-at-large.
Are we to glean from this quote that the journal judges the quality of articles not by validation or peer review, but from the number of clicks and shares and positive reviews on the internet? Is that what this means?
Posted on 1/19/22 at 9:10 am to lsupride87
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If you truly want knowledge,
Just like Pfizer’s study that the vaccine is 95% effective at preventing catching covid?
Posted on 1/19/22 at 9:15 am to Scruffy
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Everyone knows that the Nobel prize commission is a huge right wing/alt-right entity.
Obviously, that’s why they gave one to Obama.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 9:17 am to MikeBRLA
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It’s been used in humans for 30 years and the scientist who developed it literally won a Nobel prize for it.
Yes because it is great for infections from parasites which are a big deal in the 3rd world, but it's antiviral properties are just theoretical at this point.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 9:19 am to TBoy
Pretty much. Number of clicks and they're ranking articles based on some arbitrary metric which probably revolves around clicks. It's also free to view for the public, so they make their money from submitters. These journals are usually predatory in nature. I'd be embarrassed if I ever published in one like this.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 9:20 am to stout
One of the most effective ways to decrease viral load and lessen infection is povidine mouth wash. Just told a doctor I work with that and he laughed. Then I showed him the studies and he had no idea. It’s amazing how simple cost effective treatments that can, and do, significantly decrease mortality when used early in infection are being ignored.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 9:20 am to stout
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Horse paste
Is that the same as fromunda butta?
Posted on 1/19/22 at 9:21 am to stout
You're a sheep if you put this experimental drug inside your body.
Tell me what are the long-term side effects.
Tell me what are the long-term side effects.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 9:23 am to stout
Gupta and CNN need to answer for this.
And no, I don't mean by wheeling out Big Bird.
And no, I don't mean by wheeling out Big Bird.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 9:25 am to JFT96
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How about just get the damn shot
The shot that doesn't work?
I bet you're wearing a mask right now sitting at your desk as well.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 9:27 am to JFT96
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These doctors are all Brazilian....
How about just get the damn shot and not have to rely on horse paste to save your life while you are laying there dying?
Geniuses like these walk amongst us.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 9:30 am to QJenk
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Tell me what are the long-term side effects.
What?
Posted on 1/19/22 at 9:31 am to QJenk
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You're a sheep if you put this experimental drug inside your body.
Tell me what are the long-term side effects.
Sarcasm?
Posted on 1/19/22 at 9:32 am to stout
the fact that this study claims the non users, who skewed younger and healthier, had a 2.6% mortality rate should send up some red flags no?
also in Fig 1, it shows a 6.6% infection rate among non users, but Fig 2, which they derived their conclusions from, shows a 8.2% infection rate and I can't find anything in the actual report describing why they changed it
also, if they include the <18 year old age group to the non user group, the infection rate difference drops from 44% to 7%, which seems significant, no?
also in Fig 1, it shows a 6.6% infection rate among non users, but Fig 2, which they derived their conclusions from, shows a 8.2% infection rate and I can't find anything in the actual report describing why they changed it
also, if they include the <18 year old age group to the non user group, the infection rate difference drops from 44% to 7%, which seems significant, no?
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