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re: Per a peer-reviewed study, "Horse paste" (Ivermectin) reduced CV19 mortality rate by 70%
Posted on 1/19/22 at 1:57 pm to SDVTiger
Posted on 1/19/22 at 1:57 pm to SDVTiger
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Mexico is sending everyone Covid Paks
Horse Paste is one of the items you receive in it
The same mexico that claims to have a 7% mortality rate from covid? You wanna just copy what they are doing?
This post was edited on 1/19/22 at 1:58 pm
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Posted on 1/19/22 at 2:02 pm to BamaAtl
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Sure, the study is published in a pay-to-publish 'journal' with what it claims is peer review. Sure, the study is a population observational study with limited ability to discern any characteristics that may have subjects self-select into either of the 2 study groups. Sure, the study didn't have an IRB until data collection was complete, but claimed to have a protocol at the beginning of the study period. Sure, the study protocol changed halfway through for no reason explained by the authors, and conveniently sliced the non-intervention group n in half. Sure, the study authors admitted they had no way to track adherence and this prophylaxis dose could have been unused by a significant proportion of the intervention group. Sure, the study has numerous errors in the data presented in the tables - subgroup counts change with no explanation, and their exclusion criteria don't match up. Sure, the study used an opaque propensity score matching scheme that wasn't necessary and somehow reduced the intervention mortality n from 62 to 25, but left the non-intervention n preserved at 79. Sure, the first 2 authors listed on the study disclose that they are being or have been recently funded by the company that produces ivermectin.
This guy statistics
Posted on 1/19/22 at 2:45 pm to stout
The numbers in that study are weird.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 2:50 pm to crazy4lsu
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The numbers in that study are weird.
Most just read the headline anyway.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 2:57 pm to chryso
quote:The average age in India is 10 years younger than the US.
I dunno. How good is India's health care system? It seems unlikely that it would be as good as ours yet their death rate is very close to ours.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 3:02 pm to northshorebamaman
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The average age in India is 10 years younger than the US.
I'm surprised it is that high. The US's median age by race is also kinda crazy.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 3:08 pm to stout
I don't trust the science because I trust the science
Posted on 1/19/22 at 3:10 pm to sgallo3
My ultimate question is this - does taking ivermectin hurt your ability to recover from covid?
Posted on 1/19/22 at 3:15 pm to upgrayedd
No. But i already had tylenol at the house and it did a good job easing my symptoms until I was feeling better in a day and a half.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 3:21 pm to upgrayedd
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My ultimate question is this - does taking ivermectin hurt your ability to recover from covid?
Probably not. Ivermectin has some wonderful anti-inflammatory properties, including the suppression of several inflammatory molecules which happen to play a key role in immune system dysregulation with COVID. I don't think it can replace steroids in that regard, but it's a great drug regardless.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 3:23 pm to nerd guy
I searched "is cureus peer reviewed"
Everything returned that they are, in fact, a peer reviewed and respected journal.
I don't trust the science, because I trust "the science"
Everything returned that they are, in fact, a peer reviewed and respected journal.
I don't trust the science, because I trust "the science"
This post was edited on 1/19/22 at 3:24 pm
Posted on 1/19/22 at 3:25 pm to TBoy
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Are we to glean from this quote that the journal judges the quality of articles not by validation or peer review, but from the number of clicks and shares and positive reviews on the internet? Is that what this means?
Peer review isn’t some magical word. You can peer review the article and tell us what’s wrong with it.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 3:26 pm to nerd guy
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Pretty much. Number of clicks and they're ranking articles based on some arbitrary metric which probably revolves around clicks. It's also free to view for the public, so they make their money from submitters. These journals are usually predatory in nature. I'd be embarrassed if I ever published in one like this.
Well the traditional journals have proven to be extremely political during this pandemic so I’m not sure how many options you have if you want to study this topic
Posted on 1/19/22 at 3:31 pm to stout
It's like there was a designed plague that people fought back on and discovered a cure outside of the industry. Then it was a all out race to immediately discredit them.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 3:40 pm to sgallo3
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No.
So why are people losing their shite when people take it?
Posted on 1/19/22 at 3:47 pm to fr33manator
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They really hit it out of the park when they attached this label to it, even though it’s blisteringly stupid.
This is like calling aspirin “dog medicine” because it can be given to dogs in some instances.
Ivermectin has seen widespread used in multiple species, including humans, for various ailments, because it works.
Don't forget, researchers won the Nobel Prize for their work in using Ivermectin on humans. But yeah... "horse dewormer"
Posted on 1/19/22 at 3:53 pm to stout
So you ready to call the mortality rate for Covid 2.6%? That’s pretty significant.
I mean this one study did demonstrate this number
I mean this one study did demonstrate this number
This post was edited on 1/19/22 at 3:56 pm
Posted on 1/19/22 at 3:56 pm to upgrayedd
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So why are people losing their shite when people take it?
I dont care if people take it. Im just get tired of the "this wouldve saved millions of lives" folks because I have yet to see compelling evidence that it is saving lives in the countries that have passed it out to their citizens
Posted on 1/19/22 at 4:59 pm to BamaAtl
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Sure, the first 2 authors listed on the study disclose that they are being or have been recently funded by the company that produces ivermectin.
Isn’t ivermectin dirt cheap to make? How much $ would they be making off of it.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 5:19 pm to sgallo3
It wasn't passed out in all of India. Udder Pradesh is the state in India that did the widespread Ivermectin push.
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