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re: Only 7 Black Students Got Into N.Y.’s Most Selective High School, Out of 895 Spots

Posted on 3/18/19 at 7:24 pm to
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 3/18/19 at 7:24 pm to
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They could just do federally mandated busing like they did in the south. I thought Yankees hated segregation and only us dumb southerners had that
it worked well in Boston
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
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Posted on 3/18/19 at 7:24 pm to
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doubt there are many Asian Americans named Da'qwan


sure. they own restaurant here in Houston
Posted by VABuckeye
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Posted on 3/18/19 at 7:26 pm to
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I'm confused and dumb and from a small town in the Midwest. How are these considered public schools?


There’s only one here in Fairfax County. It’s incredibly difficult to get in. TJ has the highest SAT scores in the nation.
Posted by Miketheseventh
Member since Dec 2017
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Posted on 3/18/19 at 7:26 pm to
You conveniently left out this paragraph

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Students gain entry into the specialized schools by acing a single high-stakes exam that tests their mastery of math and English. Some students spend months or even years preparing for the exam. Stuyvesant, the most selective of the schools, has the highest cutoff score for admission, and now has the lowest percentage of black and Hispanic students of any of New York City’s roughly 600 public high schools.


And maybe they are not smart enough to get in. Also not being smart enough to get in is not limited to black people. It’s for everyone. I guarantee that I would not have passed a test like that when i was entering high school and I’m not black. Also you left out the end of the article also. You only posted the part of the article to support your narrative.

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Attempts to diversify the schools without touching the test have failed. Neither the expansion of free test prep for minority students nor a new plan to offer the specialized high school exam during the school day made a dent in the admissions numbers.

Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 3/18/19 at 7:28 pm to
Are Asian Americans considered a minority?

If so it looks like they have been taking advantage of the free offers.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 3/18/19 at 7:29 pm to
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from Asian-American groups who believe discarding the test would water down the schools’ rigorous academics and discriminate against the mostly low-income Asian students who make up the majority of the schools’ student bodies. (At Stuyvesant, 74 percent of current students are Asian-American.


Muh diversity!
Posted by northshorebamaman
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Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 3/18/19 at 7:29 pm to
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Attempts to diversify the schools without touching the test have failed. Neither the expansion of free test prep for minority students nor a new plan to offer the specialized high school exam during the school day made a dent in the admissions numbers.
Holy shite. It's almost as if every issue in the world isn't because of racism.
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 3/18/19 at 7:29 pm to
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Neither the expansion of free test prep for minority students nor a new plan to offer the specialized high school exam during the school day made a dent in the admissions numbers.

This is important.

You can lead a horse to water... But you can't kill two birds in a bush.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 3/18/19 at 7:30 pm to
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Whites are like 70% of the country.


in my bidness, when all of this pc crap began, it was ridiculously reverse-d, these are just round numbers for the example, but the percentages are correct, 50,000 applicants for, let's say 1000 open positions, 5-8% minorities among the applicants, those who were non-white males get 90+% of the jobs, companies were (perceived)lawsuit shy
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77956 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 7:30 pm to
That’s the problem with posters like the OP.

They believe in bringing down standards for some misguided idea of “justice”.

“When everyone is super, no one is.”
This post was edited on 3/18/19 at 7:33 pm
Posted by Bamboozles
BR
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 3/18/19 at 7:30 pm to
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You only posted the part of the article to support your narrative. 



Would you rather me paste a full wall of text quoting the entire article?

I do not have a narrative. I believe every student should gain admission based only on merit and not on skin color.

Still that ratio is pretty much an eye opener don't you think?
This post was edited on 3/18/19 at 7:31 pm
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 3/18/19 at 7:30 pm to
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raising the pressure on officials to confront the decades-old challenge of integrating New York’s elite public schools.


Funny thus is in the intro. Front and center. What about raising concerns about fixing the causes of black (and non-Asian) underperformance? Why would it raise concerns about integration? It's that mentality that perpetuates the problem.
Posted by Bamboozles
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Posted on 3/18/19 at 7:32 pm to
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What about raising concerns about fixing the causes of black (and non-Asian) underperformance? 


Bang on point!!
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 7:34 pm to
Equality of outcome.

Those that succeed sacrifice for those who don't.

Foretold by the prophet Peart 40 years ago inthe book of Hemispheres V 1978



There is unrest in the forest
There is trouble with the trees
For the maples want more sunlight
And the oaks ignore their pleas
The trouble with the maples
And they're quite convinced they're right

They say the oaks are just too lofty
And they grab up all the light
But the oaks can't help their feelings
If they like the way they're made
And they wonder why the maples
Can't be happy in their shade?

There is trouble in the forest
And the creatures all have fled
As the maples scream 'oppression!'
And the oaks, just shake their heads

So the maples formed a union
And demanded equal rights
'The oaks are just too greedy
We will make them give us light'
Now there's no more oak oppression
For they passed a noble law
And the trees are all kept equal
By hatchet,
Axe,
And saw
This post was edited on 3/18/19 at 7:37 pm
Posted by Bamboozles
BR
Member since Jul 2008
2421 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 7:34 pm to
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That’s the problem with posters like the OP. 

They believe in bringing down standards for some misguided idea of “justice”. 


Lol, I am all for a merit based system scruffy, but I found the numbers eye opening

FYI, the OP is Asian American and a proud graduate of BRMHS, at least top 10 school in this state FWIW :)
This post was edited on 3/18/19 at 7:39 pm
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38560 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 7:35 pm to
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That’s the problem with posters like the OP.

They believe in bringing down standards for some misguided idea of “justice”.

“When everyone is super, no one is.”
It's like they don't understand what makes a school 'prestigious' in the first place.
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 3/18/19 at 7:39 pm to
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what makes a school 'prestigious' in the first place.

percentage of white people

duh
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Member since Feb 2018
53808 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 7:40 pm to
Apparently it's percentage of Asians. They earn more money than us too. We needed to deflect some of the heat anyway
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42714 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 7:42 pm to
Mother fricking Syndrone. Most evil character in any kids cartoon
Posted by OWLFAN86
Erotic Novelist
Member since Jun 2004
197897 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 7:43 pm to
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Apparently it's percentage of Asians. They earn more money than us too. We needed to deflect some of the heat anyway

prestigious and accomplished are not the same thing
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