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re: Only 7 Black Students Got Into N.Y.’s Most Selective High School, Out of 895 Spots
Posted on 3/18/19 at 7:24 pm to Oilfieldbiology
Posted on 3/18/19 at 7:24 pm to Oilfieldbiology
quote:it worked well in Boston
They could just do federally mandated busing like they did in the south. I thought Yankees hated segregation and only us dumb southerners had that
Posted on 3/18/19 at 7:24 pm to SG_Geaux
Posted on 3/18/19 at 7:26 pm to arkyhawk
quote:
I'm confused and dumb and from a small town in the Midwest. How are these considered public schools?
There’s only one here in Fairfax County. It’s incredibly difficult to get in. TJ has the highest SAT scores in the nation.
Posted on 3/18/19 at 7:26 pm to Bamboozles
You conveniently left out this paragraph
And maybe they are not smart enough to get in. Also not being smart enough to get in is not limited to black people. It’s for everyone. I guarantee that I would not have passed a test like that when i was entering high school and I’m not black. Also you left out the end of the article also. You only posted the part of the article to support your narrative.
quote:
Students gain entry into the specialized schools by acing a single high-stakes exam that tests their mastery of math and English. Some students spend months or even years preparing for the exam. Stuyvesant, the most selective of the schools, has the highest cutoff score for admission, and now has the lowest percentage of black and Hispanic students of any of New York City’s roughly 600 public high schools.
And maybe they are not smart enough to get in. Also not being smart enough to get in is not limited to black people. It’s for everyone. I guarantee that I would not have passed a test like that when i was entering high school and I’m not black. Also you left out the end of the article also. You only posted the part of the article to support your narrative.
quote:
Attempts to diversify the schools without touching the test have failed. Neither the expansion of free test prep for minority students nor a new plan to offer the specialized high school exam during the school day made a dent in the admissions numbers.
Posted on 3/18/19 at 7:28 pm to Miketheseventh
Are Asian Americans considered a minority?
If so it looks like they have been taking advantage of the free offers.
If so it looks like they have been taking advantage of the free offers.
Posted on 3/18/19 at 7:29 pm to Bamboozles
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from Asian-American groups who believe discarding the test would water down the schools’ rigorous academics and discriminate against the mostly low-income Asian students who make up the majority of the schools’ student bodies. (At Stuyvesant, 74 percent of current students are Asian-American.
Muh diversity!
Posted on 3/18/19 at 7:29 pm to Miketheseventh
quote:Holy shite. It's almost as if every issue in the world isn't because of racism.
Attempts to diversify the schools without touching the test have failed. Neither the expansion of free test prep for minority students nor a new plan to offer the specialized high school exam during the school day made a dent in the admissions numbers.
Posted on 3/18/19 at 7:29 pm to Miketheseventh
quote:
Neither the expansion of free test prep for minority students nor a new plan to offer the specialized high school exam during the school day made a dent in the admissions numbers.
This is important.
You can lead a horse to water... But you can't kill two birds in a bush.
Posted on 3/18/19 at 7:30 pm to fallguy_1978
quote:
Whites are like 70% of the country.
in my bidness, when all of this pc crap began, it was ridiculously reverse-d, these are just round numbers for the example, but the percentages are correct, 50,000 applicants for, let's say 1000 open positions, 5-8% minorities among the applicants, those who were non-white males get 90+% of the jobs, companies were (perceived)lawsuit shy
Posted on 3/18/19 at 7:30 pm to Miketheseventh
That’s the problem with posters like the OP.
They believe in bringing down standards for some misguided idea of “justice”.
“When everyone is super, no one is.”
They believe in bringing down standards for some misguided idea of “justice”.
“When everyone is super, no one is.”
This post was edited on 3/18/19 at 7:33 pm
Posted on 3/18/19 at 7:30 pm to Miketheseventh
quote:
You only posted the part of the article to support your narrative.
Would you rather me paste a full wall of text quoting the entire article?
I do not have a narrative. I believe every student should gain admission based only on merit and not on skin color.
Still that ratio is pretty much an eye opener don't you think?
This post was edited on 3/18/19 at 7:31 pm
Posted on 3/18/19 at 7:30 pm to Bamboozles
quote:
raising the pressure on officials to confront the decades-old challenge of integrating New York’s elite public schools.
Funny thus is in the intro. Front and center. What about raising concerns about fixing the causes of black (and non-Asian) underperformance? Why would it raise concerns about integration? It's that mentality that perpetuates the problem.
Posted on 3/18/19 at 7:32 pm to McLemore
quote:
What about raising concerns about fixing the causes of black (and non-Asian) underperformance?
Bang on point!!
Posted on 3/18/19 at 7:34 pm to Oilfieldbiology
Equality of outcome.
Those that succeed sacrifice for those who don't.
Foretold by the prophet Peart 40 years ago inthe book of Hemispheres V 1978
There is unrest in the forest
There is trouble with the trees
For the maples want more sunlight
And the oaks ignore their pleas
The trouble with the maples
And they're quite convinced they're right
They say the oaks are just too lofty
And they grab up all the light
But the oaks can't help their feelings
If they like the way they're made
And they wonder why the maples
Can't be happy in their shade?
There is trouble in the forest
And the creatures all have fled
As the maples scream 'oppression!'
And the oaks, just shake their heads
So the maples formed a union
And demanded equal rights
'The oaks are just too greedy
We will make them give us light'
Now there's no more oak oppression
For they passed a noble law
And the trees are all kept equal
By hatchet,
Axe,
And saw
Those that succeed sacrifice for those who don't.
Foretold by the prophet Peart 40 years ago inthe book of Hemispheres V 1978
There is unrest in the forest
There is trouble with the trees
For the maples want more sunlight
And the oaks ignore their pleas
The trouble with the maples
And they're quite convinced they're right
They say the oaks are just too lofty
And they grab up all the light
But the oaks can't help their feelings
If they like the way they're made
And they wonder why the maples
Can't be happy in their shade?
There is trouble in the forest
And the creatures all have fled
As the maples scream 'oppression!'
And the oaks, just shake their heads
So the maples formed a union
And demanded equal rights
'The oaks are just too greedy
We will make them give us light'
Now there's no more oak oppression
For they passed a noble law
And the trees are all kept equal
By hatchet,
Axe,
And saw
This post was edited on 3/18/19 at 7:37 pm
Posted on 3/18/19 at 7:34 pm to Scruffy
quote:
That’s the problem with posters like the OP.
They believe in bringing down standards for some misguided idea of “justice”.
Lol, I am all for a merit based system scruffy, but I found the numbers eye opening
FYI, the OP is Asian American and a proud graduate of BRMHS, at least top 10 school in this state FWIW :)
This post was edited on 3/18/19 at 7:39 pm
Posted on 3/18/19 at 7:35 pm to Scruffy
quote:It's like they don't understand what makes a school 'prestigious' in the first place.
That’s the problem with posters like the OP.
They believe in bringing down standards for some misguided idea of “justice”.
“When everyone is super, no one is.”
Posted on 3/18/19 at 7:39 pm to northshorebamaman
quote:percentage of white people
what makes a school 'prestigious' in the first place.
duh
Posted on 3/18/19 at 7:40 pm to OWLFAN86
Apparently it's percentage of Asians. They earn more money than us too. We needed to deflect some of the heat anyway 
Posted on 3/18/19 at 7:42 pm to Scruffy
Mother fricking Syndrone. Most evil character in any kids cartoon
Posted on 3/18/19 at 7:43 pm to fallguy_1978
quote:prestigious and accomplished are not the same thing
Apparently it's percentage of Asians. They earn more money than us too. We needed to deflect some of the heat anyway
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