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re: Only 7 Black Students Got Into N.Y.’s Most Selective High School, Out of 895 Spots

Posted on 3/18/19 at 9:46 pm to
Posted by LSUBFA83
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 3/18/19 at 9:46 pm to
Maybe they need to look into how Ben Franklin in New Orleans continues to be ranked near the top nationally but has managed to diversify. I'm not sure how they did it but the school is way more diverse than it was in the 70s and 80s.
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 3/18/19 at 9:50 pm to
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How many of the 7 were qualified and how many were affirmative action?




It's 7 out of 895. You think affirmative action had anything to do with their admission?
Posted by Mike da Tigah
Bravo Romeo Lima Alpha
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Posted on 3/18/19 at 10:00 pm to
Sounds like the liberal elite needs a little forced bussing.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 3/18/19 at 10:04 pm to
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how Ben Franklin in New Orleans continues to be ranked near the top nationally but has managed to diversify


Katrina is what caused Franklin to diversify.

Before that the same accusations were thrown around.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 3/18/19 at 10:06 pm to
Anyone want to dive down a rabbit hole?

Take a google into Stuyvesant Cuddle Puddle
Posted by xiv
Parody. #AdminsRule
Member since Feb 2004
39508 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 10:07 pm to
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I miss the days when you earned your way.
...and had to compete only against whites and not everybody amirite
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 3/18/19 at 10:09 pm to
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Stuyvesant High School
Home of the Peglegs
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 3/18/19 at 10:10 pm to
Dropping the requirements only serves to make these schools like any other schools, therefore any benefit you get now from graduating there would no longer exist.

Asians value education heavily and a 2 parent household that pushes them to be successful.

The black students who got accepted did it the right way. They should be commended and used as an example of how to achieve. Many blacks think the system is rigged against them but reality is most of them are against the system themselves and refuse to culturally adapt and change in order to do what it takes to succeed in the systems we have.
Posted by deltaland
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Posted on 3/18/19 at 10:14 pm to
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I’d be interested to see if they made them list race in the application or not.


Probably not. But another thing to consider that so many blacks do not is names chosen for kids. Say there is a racist handling applications. He will know “Laquisha johnson” isn’t an Anglo Saxon applying to school. It shouldn’t matter, but reality is that it does. The name Ashley Johnson however, with no race on the application, leads the person handling it to be void of any discrimination.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
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Posted on 3/18/19 at 10:17 pm to
There is only a number, not a name.
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
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Posted on 3/18/19 at 10:19 pm to
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Maybe they need to look into how Ben Franklin in New Orleans continues to be ranked near the top nationally but has managed to diversify.


I'm all for diversity, but which Asian kids do you think should get kicked out?
Posted by TOSOV
Member since Jan 2016
8922 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 10:29 pm to
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Why are predominantly black and hispanic schools failing at raising up students who are able to compete with these asain students.


it's an answer everyone knows, no one will say in public, and no one truly wants the definitive answer too. If it were answered then it circle backs to what everyone knows, which is unspeakable, and not easily repairable.
Posted by ManBearTiger
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Posted on 3/18/19 at 10:30 pm to
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7


Seems high
Posted by ExtraGravy
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Posted on 3/18/19 at 10:31 pm to
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This post was edited on 10/15/20 at 9:04 am
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 3/18/19 at 10:34 pm to
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I'm all for diversity, but which Asian kids do you think should get kicked out?


It would obviously be the ones with the darker skin. Or any on free lunch. Or those whose parents cannot contribute big bucks to the discretionary slush fund.

Seriously though, when they say Asians are 74%, how many of those are Oriental, and how many are Indian or Israeli? You know there are some Patels in there.
Posted by vistajay
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/18/19 at 10:34 pm to
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Maybe they need to look into how Ben Franklin in New Orleans continues to be ranked near the top nationally but has managed to diversify. I'm not sure how they did it but the school is way more diverse than it was in the 70s and 80s.


Franklin's diversity, in comparison, reflects the relatively small Asian population in New Orleans and the admissions standards are much lower than these NYC schools. NYC just uses the test score. Franklin uses a matrix combining grades and the test score, such that students from lower performing middle schools with high grades can still gain admission to Franklin even with a low test score.
Posted by TOSOV
Member since Jan 2016
8922 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 10:46 pm to
At some point the legal status of many asians will be the way some will say to fix the problem. Cntrs full of them being sent over.
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 3/18/19 at 11:22 pm to
This is bullshite. Doesn’t matter if they qualify, or if it’s deserving. African American people of color need to be represented at minimum 28%
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 3/18/19 at 11:28 pm to
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Stuyvesant High School

State champs in swimming, water polo, diving, golf, and tennis.

Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
21121 posts
Posted on 3/19/19 at 4:27 am to
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Their basketball team is awful.


True, but their chess team is undefeated.
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